In the Rose Garden / Which episode(s) does it say Utena's parents died in a CAR Accident?

Atropos · Back to Top

Well...
I don't buy the idea that Akio killed Utena's parents. It's just not like him.
He DID brainfrell Nemuro into killing 100 duelists during the BRS, but that's different: they had a contract.

gorgeousshutin · Back to Top

Atropos wrote:
He DID brainfrell Nemuro into killing 100 duelists during the BRS, but that's different: they had a contract.

Unless this happened in the past:

But like, seriously, the rose motif coffins and the fact that Akio would go set up a elaborate show for child Utena despite her not yet being an Ohtori student then did make conspiracy theories seem . . . possible, if not definite.

Atropos · Back to Top

gorgeousshutin wrote:
But like, seriously, the rose motif coffins and the fact that Akio would go set up a elaborate show for child Utena despite her not yet being an Ohtori student then did make conspiracy theories seem . . . possible, if not definite.

We discussed this elsewhere. emot-mad
It just seems so...tactless of him. Just ramming a married couple with a car? What the Christ?

gorgeousshutin · Back to Top

Atropos wrote:
It just seems so...tactless of him. Just ramming a married couple with a car? What the Christ?

Oh, even suppose jiko = accident and cannot mean incident, it needs not be narrowed down to a car accident.
A planned household natural gas leak could easily off a couple; a home propane explosion could erase a lot of the murderer's traces.

Or, an arson ala Nemuro Hall . . . it seemed like the official records never could pin Nemuro down as the culprit.

All the above is supposing that the Tenjou couple were actually prior involved with Ohtori (as the rose coffin might hint at). Suppose Akio simply approached Utena without prior planning (except for the "funeral details"), then their meeting would be totally random, meaning that Akio actively roams all around the outside world targeting various children he see as having pawn/duelist potential.

satyreyes · Back to Top

We could speculate all day emot-smile I guess the bottom line is that -- unless we're missing a line somewhere or there's more to the translation than I can understand -- we don't have enough information to pin down a cause of death for the Tenjous. Even Ikuni may not know how it happened, and if he had wanted us to know, it would have been easy for him to tell us in the text (by having the guy with the flashlight say "car accident" or "explosion" or "Angel attack"). So it's safe to conclude that their cause of death is immaterial as far as subtext is concerned. We can fill that gap with whatever fic bunnies we want. emot-smile

gorgeousshutin · Back to Top

Satyreyes wrote:
Even Ikuni may not know how it happened, and if he had wanted us to know, it would have been easy for him to tell us in the text (by having the guy with the flashlight say "car accident" or "explosion" or "Angel attack"). So it's safe to conclude that their cause of death is immaterial as far as subtext is concerned. We can fill that gap with whatever fic bunnies we want. emot-smile

Too true.

brian · Back to Top

It would be beautifully symbolic if they drowned. After all Utena tries to drown herself, Juri tries to drown her locket, and lots of important discourses are made while people look out over the water.

gorgeousshutin · Back to Top

brian wrote:
After all Utena tries to drown herself

I don't think I've seen this in the anime . . . is that a scene in the manga version?

Aine Silveria · Back to Top

That is a manga scene, yes. I can't remember the exact details of the scene though.

gorgeousshutin · Back to Top

Aine Silveria wrote:
That is a manga scene, yes. I can't remember the exact details of the scene though.

Thanks for clarifying that, Aine!

yuzukelly · Back to Top

It's how she meets Dios in the manga, she tried to drown herself and he saves her emot-biggrin

Lurv · Back to Top

yuzukelly wrote:
It's how she meets Dios in the manga, she tried to drown herself and he saves her

Well, that's one way to meet boys. emot-rolleyes

yuzukelly · Back to Top

Lurv wrote:
yuzukelly wrote:
It's how she meets Dios in the manga, she tried to drown herself and he saves her
Well, that's one way to meet boys.

LOL! Well, did she meet a very sexy prince school-devil

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