Well I for one like this animation project. I can really appreciate the effort that went into it.
I'll admit my one main gripe is that Sailor Jupiter is portrayed as a guy frequently and it's kind of insulting to her character.

I 100% disagree that this is unartistic. That it's not your cup of tea Karuka; I'm totally fine with. But each of the animators showed their own personality through their varied styles. The dub for this anime was so over the top and the animation here reflects it. There is so much creativity flourishing here.

It's definitely in stark contrast to the original Japanese release of Sailor Moon, and even more so to Crystal. I completely understand why it comes off as insulting to you. But I would argue that this is more of the fault of the dub than it is of the animators.

It also doesn't seem to me like Crystal and Moon Animate are really comparable. I get that both are retellings of Sailor Moon in different animation styles but there's some key differences. One difference is that Crystal is an officially sanctioned product whereas Moon Animate is fan-made. If someone dislikes it, it's a lot easier to disregard a fan work than something that has that 'stamp of officialness' on it. In my experience anyways. Moon Animate also acts a showcase for a variety of different animators; something people can appreciate since the animators aren't being compensated. Technically, all animation does this but we don't think of it in this way when its created as an official product meant for mass publication.
The biggest difference, though, is that the target audiences are completely different. Moon Animate is specifically made for audiences who are nostalgic towards the 90s American dub of the series. Its target audience isn't kids like Crystal's is. Crystal's audience seems to be children and young adults of the 2010s and the cultures are just so different. What makes the show 'good' is completely different between these two groups.

I was obviously upset and didn't make my argument clear enough

I don't compare this with crystal in the quality level, but at an aesthetic standard


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people find this cute and beautiful

while:


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they find this ugly, un-artistic, trash

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these are two random shoots nothing specific

you see I'm not talking about quality of the animation, but the aesthetic of it, the style.
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PS: crystal is not for younger kids, they have specifically stated that they made this for an older audience.

as I said this is not about quality it is about the style
I honestly don't see what's wrong with the second picture by the way
the other two YES have animation mistakes (which are fixed in most parts in the blu-ray release)
but so did the old anime, which suffered greatly in the quality part, and those who don't think so they are probably forgetting.

as for the fan project, you showed me 3 artists of the hundreds, I want to know what does the majority of the styles look like. Because when I look at it, it seems that the majority is similar to the style I posted.

And ohh you will be surprised how many hate the style and aesthetics of Crystal(basically the artistic style of Naoko), and I exclude all the "lets ridicule the quality" blogs out there.

Snow wrote:

so to a layman such mistakes in such a high-profile and high-budget show seem a bit...lazy?

Why Crystal is considered so high budget? It is an internet broadcast, with little to no commercials, with a TV broadcast starting just couple of months ago (when we started seeing quality differences in animation to be exact)

Just because they made a comeback doesn't instantly mean they invested all the money to it.

But that's the thing, It should have been higher budget. It should have been a priority. it should have been developed and launched properly. This is a 20 minute project with higher standards than Crystal, imo. And I honestly think that your "aesthetics" argument is disingenuous.

as for the fan project, you showed me 3 artists of the hundreds, I want to know what does the majority of the styles look like. Because when I look at it, it seems that the majority is similar to the style I posted.

There are 250 artists. There are massive variations in style. There was a freaking yarn puppet segment. There was an amazing black and yellow splash noir that looked like it would have been at home in Trigun. There was an awesome lineless scene done with competing textures. The style you posted is really reminiscent of things like Steven Universe and Bee and Puppycat, which are both great show with a definable style. There was a scene with what I'm pretty sure was a Bob's Burgers animator.

The bottom line, for me, is this: I feel like you're dismissing this work because you're upset that some people don't like Crystal. I think it's unfair to compare the two at all, and I think that your attitude is rude towards the creators who actually put in time and effort to a free project.

I find this incredibly un-artistic, and insulting to the original.
the style in most cases is aesthetically unattractive.

I have seen gazillion of so called super fans of Sailor moon, liking this, and HATE on crystal.
which pisses me off so much.

these animators should stick to their origins and make cartoons and leave anime alone.

That's harsh. It's not an insult. It's people who were most likely heavily inspired by the show, who jumped at a change to get to redraw a sequence for this project. You can love something and make fun of it at the same time, and sure, some of the sequences did just that. Maybe you didn't like all of them -I know I didn't- but I can appreciate the work and effort that went into it, that you're just dumping on.

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MissMocha wrote:

But that's the thing, It should have been higher budget. It should have been a priority. it should have been developed and launched properly. This is a 20 minute project with higher standards than Crystal, imo. And I honestly think that your "aesthetics" argument is disingenuous.

Why should it be? It is a work from 20 years ago, they are not even sure it will sell enough. Those who want the quality in animation they are very welcome to invest for it, and make this project in a studio known for a superb quality etc.

As for my argument it is my opinion which you can take it or leave it, your own opinion is very welcome and accepted by me. If I'm harsh, so be it, it is not like I'm going to bitch on them on their faces. It was posted here, I commented here, you guys opposed my opinion and that is that.

They're gearing up for a new episode but production hasn't started just yet.
If you want to see previews and stay updated follow the project here: moonanimate.tumblr.com

I think they're actually planning a sequel to this! Seems like they posted something in October 2015 about it, and are aiming for either a late 2016/ early 2017 release date, by the looks of it. ( Right here )

Also, the decision to try animating to the original Japanese track was probably due to trying to fit in as much different animators as possible, since they're also planning on animating the opening and ending sequences this time. It's still going to be neat looking, going by the variation of preview clips so far. I enjoyed the original run of this experiment, and I'd love to see what they end up with this time!

In addition, the same folks ended up organizing a reanimation of the Akira trailer centered around Bartkira, which is... Akira but with The Simpsons characters redrawn into it. I haven't read through the original manga, or the mashup comic, but this... this is interesting.