This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)
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No, they changed her pincushion sequence.
I do enjoy that they were kind enough to tell us the episode number of each one though. I mean, I only knew the important ones. I find it odd they call each one a duel though.
And the songs are kinda remastered or whatever too, but it kinda just sounds more like someone fucked with your stereo equalizer or something instead of like... actually doing anything.
There are also a few still shots they changed, like after Shiori looks up at Ruka after his duel she looks more sad instead of OMG SHOCK! which I actually do have a picture of this time.
That entire episode was done horribly. So, they decided to change HER FACE. I can only assume they felt the original was VERY WRONG from the way they felt Shiori rolled or something, cause I mean, of EVERYTHING, they needed to change that face.
[edit] god dammit why won't you show that picture *kicks*
[edit edit] THERE
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Comparison. Yeah, they narrowed her eyes a bit.
I bet Touga still looks like a fucktard in his last duel episode. I haven't had the heart to watch.
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Giovanna wrote:
PS. Satyr: Yes yes, I know, we're analysis-whores. Which is like being anal whores with less lube. Honestly I'm not reading into the hand so much as pointing out that that's the first change Yasha and I noticed. Goes to show where our attentions are.
I wasn't being sarcastic Sorry I came across that way!
Are those two pics of Shiori really the same shot? I can't tell for sure from the discussion which one is the remastered version, but if they're the same shot then someone digitally edited in or out part of a broken windshield at top right of the frame.
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In that case, we totally agree.
Also I believe that's a zooming shot, the cel doesn't change but you don't see the windshield because I took the cap later in the sequence. I would check to be sure but I only watch episodes with lots of Akio, Touga, or Saionji in them.
PS. Yasha and I have been talking about buttsex all day because we like analysis in the butt. Now we're going to go to an Indian buffet.*
* Akio is totally buffet food. Cheap, excessive, makes you sick to your stomach but good luck getting away.**
** We're too poor for Touga food. ***
*** No decent Saionji anywhere in this city.
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God dammit. Yasha also wants me to say something about Crash the movie in this thread as there is a car crash being discussed. If you've never seen Crash, it's about people who get turned on by car crashes and car crash victims. You know, the sort of people that would drive a convertible through windows, walls, into living rooms, into fountains, and over Juri.
Wait.
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Giovanna wrote:
You know, the sort of people that would drive a convertible over Juri.
I've seen Crash. Cronenberg is the absolute shizznit.
And it is so not about people who would run Juri down.
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allegoriest wrote:
Also, in Wakaba's duel, they made Utena say Himemiya, where she previously said Anthy, and that one really bothered me alot. So I'm glad they changed that.
But we had a whole thread about that!
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Ragnarok wrote:
allegoriest wrote:
Also, in Wakaba's duel, they made Utena say Himemiya, where she previously said Anthy, and that one really bothered me alot. So I'm glad they changed that.
But we had a whole thread about that!
Clearly, they found that thread displeasing.
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Ya well we're not 'remastering' the threads just to make them happy.
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What, you don't want an EXTREME fap fap shlick shlick .wav playing on every page. With an OMG LOUD beating heart for every less than three? Maybe a GAAAAAAAAAAAAH for each GONK.
Then we can totally disregard remastering that thread, since they didn't do IMPORTANT things, like making shots of Touga in his last key episode not suck. I think it would be even.
We can also make a few smlies shinier, and give the ones enjoying themselves a new font. ...and add one more frame to the gaping mouth smilie and very slightly change the board font to something near identical.
Then our remaster will be appropriate.
(Seriously though, don't do that. )
[edit:] You know, the more I think about it, I think Ikuhara did they entire thing himself. Then made that CD all, dude, I just spent a year playing with SFX. I can totally handle this. This has to be what happened.
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Regarding the forum being remastered...if someone has that much time to waste copying then reformatting one older threads it would be very funny or disturbing. Hell those two ideas need not be mutually exclusive. As for more special edits every time you type a main cast members name it turns in to a certain corresponding color/effect. For example DIOS would be in twinkling, flashing, sparkles.
Giovanna wrote:
In that case, we totally agree.
Also I believe that's a zooming shot, the cel doesn't change but you don't see the windshield because I took the cap later in the sequence. I would check to be sure but I only watch episodes with lots of Akio, Touga, or Saionji in them.
PS. Yasha and I have been talking about buttsex all day because we like analysis in the butt. Now we're going to go to an Indian buffet.*
* Akio is totally buffet food. Cheap, excessive, makes you sick to your stomach but good luck getting away.**
** We're too poor for Touga food. ***
*** No decent Saionji anywhere in this city.
So, if I am guessing Akio=Indian, Touga=French???, Saionji=Traditional Japanese????
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Necro'd because, after reading this whole thing, I'm really surprised they never changed the animation fail towards the end of the series.
Or did they?
I dunno, I never saw the remaster.
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There certainly was animation fail towards the end of the series, but everyone seems to talk like it was only at the end of the series. I would like to refute this. There are much earlier episodes that could have used some touching-up.
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^That shot of Touga always bothered the hell out of me. It's just so... ugh.
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Dallbun wrote:
more animation fail
Oh yeah, I definitely recognize those and more moments earlier in the series as totally worth a retouching, I just feel like it's more easily noticeable towards the end, where almost everything had lacking animation and not just a few frames.
Thanks for clearing that up though.
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allegoriest wrote:
Anthy found a rather notable change in episode 39.
Poor Anthy. I'll bring bandaids.
I don't think I ever screencapped it though, and I don't have them on me right now, so, you'll just see when you get there.
I made a whole list of changes and stuff, but I have no idea where I put it...
I cringe badly when watching the remastered scene. I could try screencapping it real quick since I have the episodes on this current laptop. Get your tissues folks, it's even worse than the original cut.
ETA: This is obviously for those that have not downloaded the remastered version, I just realized I'm replying to an older topic so I kind of look like a jerk but I did screencap the scene in question. I cut it up a bit (no very mean pun intended ) cause it would take over 20 screenshots to cover the whole scene, so I just kept the ones with the most swords. Most obvious difference is, this scene is now full screen:
Sorry for the picspam guys. If you want me to cut down the images I'll go back and choose from my album a lesser amount.
Heartbreaking.
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Calamity wrote:
allegoriest wrote:
Anthy found a rather notable change in episode 39.
Poor Anthy. I'll bring bandaids.
I don't think I ever screencapped it though, and I don't have them on me right now, so, you'll just see when you get there.
I made a whole list of changes and stuff, but I have no idea where I put it...I cringe badly when watching the remastered scene. I could try screencapping it real quick since I have the episodes on this current laptop. Get your tissues folks, it's even worse than the original cut.
Please do so D:
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Done, I edited my post just for you bb.
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yaaay!
also, the scene is much more frightening. You guys were right.
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The animation in that scene is what really adds to the disturbing nature. The twitching and thrusts were very detailed.
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Or, you can watch it online. Cause the remaster is totally there. (Utena, SFX redeux.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHITb4dgMvg
If only they had changed so many bad frames.
And really? I always thought the beginning was far more guilty of horrible animation quality.
I do have a special love for eyeliner Touga though.
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Damn, I can't watch that episode without tearing up.
The sadness is terribly intensified.
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The first time I watched that episode I had to take off my glasses; I was crying so much I couldn't see with them on.
A ten year old cousin of mine had been watching the series with me on and off. She actually ran out of the room when Anthy's hand slipped from Utena's, she wanted to hide that she was crying.
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No matter how many times I watch episode 39, I still cry. The majority of it being sad tears with a slight touch of hope, then of course the last scene, the closing credits, and them finally showing the title of the episode makes me bawl my eyes out with happy tears.
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