This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)
Episode 3
-I'm curious as to how Utena managed to fit through the door ways in that dress
- I love how Wakaba almost sent the two of them sailing out of the window
- On the "next time on Utena" bit they say Miki has only faught one duel but seems to be aiming to fight another for Anthy. Just curious about the duels previous to Utena
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Episode 3;
1)Speaking to Touga's Ninja abilities i love how Utena is proclaiming to Anthy... " I just want a perfectly normal boy" and Touga just pipes in... haha well then mr creeper.
also: i love how utena says... "there's no way a playboy like that could be my prince on a white horse" HA!! girl... HA!!! You just WAIT... just freakin' WAIT. You think Touga's bad? Pshhh Please.
2) How does anthy not know nanami? thats awkward.
3) I love Anthy's expression whilst playing the card game... priceless really.... and cute as hell :D
4) Anthy says she doesn't like places with lots of people and she gets scared because of it... well i think this is somewhat of one of those preludes to what is to come... forshadowing if you will.... I can't imagine she'd be excited about lots of people... seeing as what happened last time... *swords?*
5) Touga proves he's a creeper by his googly eyes when Utena shows up at the dance.. it hink this scene is something i'll never forget.
6) i think tis interesting that Nanami is wearing a different type of dress compared to everyone else... kind-of asserting her social class in a way
Ahh, feels good to watch that stuff again. At any rate.. i'll post more after i watch ep 4 :D
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I wish I could say more about episode three than how hard it made me ship Touga/Utena. I really do. (Utena's such a tsundere!)
One thing I never really noticed about number four is Miki's "Maybe I'm the one who needs tuning" line. As an aspiring teleplay writer I was very impressed with that dialouge. However, Nanami's melodrama is still my favorite part. You get to see how much of a glutton for attention she is.
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I would love to do this, but I might need to lessen it more because I have to catch up with tafework
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Conveniently timed to coincide with the great SKU rewatch, this week's Anime News Nina webcomic has a little something for the SKU fans:
http://fast.animenewsnetwork.com/anime- … 2010-03-24
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Yay an excuse to re-watch although I finished the series only 3 month's ago. Anthy really malevolent looking during the ending credit sequence.
Damn, whats the acronym for that?
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I'm just in time!
I've wanted to do a re-watch to see evil Anthy throughout, post-reading of all the analysis.
I'm anticipating a lot of stock-clip usage during the riide to battle, but I'm glad to be reminded some episodes like 3 don't follow any pattern.
So far my most relevant reaction to episode 3 was how did Utena sneak her custom uniform under a shoulder-revealing dress.
Also, was Touga's reaction to Utena false? (The wide-eyed ness, we'll make a beautiful couple nonsense) Seemed a little cookie cutter playboy for me so I'm gonna go ahead and say he was trying to play her for an average girl.
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Well, the series actually does get interesting pretty quickly if you know how to look.
Episode 3
- Anthy's blankfaced pause right before she agrees to go to the ball is a reaction that I don't quite know what to make of it. I think it's supposed to be showing how much Utena is throwing Anthy off of her practiced Rose Bride role.
-TOUGA'S FACE WILL HAUNT ME FOR ALL ETERNITY. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH
- Am I the only one who heard Naji's line from the dub? "Fuck YOU Table"
Episode 4
-Miki talks like an old man, it's quite off putting for how young he is.
-If everyone weren't fucked up, I'd totally ship MikixNanami. They would be so cute together if they didn't have such crippling complexes
-Miki worries me greatly. I think out of everyone in the series he buys into the delusion of Ohtori the most and shows the most danger of becoming SO MUCH like Akio *criiiinge*
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Anji wrote:
-Miki talks like an old man, it's quite off putting for how young he is.
This is to make up for how I mistook him for a girl in the subbed version first time around, he definitely has an effeminate introduction.
When the books fell off the fountain, it definitely didn't look like an accident...
loling forever at Nanami's failed attempts at animal freakouts and finally going into what appears to paralyzed nervous breakdown.
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haelsyx wrote:
Also, was Touga's reaction to Utena false? (The wide-eyed ness, we'll make a beautiful couple nonsense) Seemed a little cookie cutter playboy for me so I'm gonna go ahead and say he was trying to play her for an average girl.
I'd say less to do with her and more to do with smugness that he got her to wear a dress. Either way, horrifying. Touga doesn't really clean up very well until later.
Also, there's a reason Miki is my least favorite character. And that reason is that...he's so innocent. Would someone please blow this kid already? I know the 'music' is a metaphor but still. That's not even a phallic metaphor!
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Giovanna wrote:
Also, there's a reason Miki is my least favorite character. And that reason is that...he's so innocent.
Would someone please blow this kid already? I know the 'music' is a metaphor but still. That's not even a phallic metaphor!
I dunno, Gio. Have you looked at a quarter note? I mean, really looked at it? Though if you need more girth, you can use an eighth note instead.
Touga is at his most awful in episode 3. It's a shame this is our first real introduction to his character.
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No, I maintain you don't see Touga's colors (hurr red hurr) until episode 9. At this point they seem to still play with him as the playboy character, and really that becomes just stupidly unimportant later--to the point where it's made an afterthought to larger things (the girl that approaches him and he kisses and then drops the card).
Saionji, however, adorable and full of rage and poorly compensated insecurity from day one.
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Even though Miki is so innocent, I still think that he's not as innocent as he lets people believe. He obviously seems to feel a lot of guilt.
Ack. I've been so busy I didn't even get a chance to watch these episodes. I'll still post the next episodes up tomorrow though, and try to catch up. Let me know how time is working for you all too.
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Uhm.... Sorry, I completely forgot to post here! Been so busy with math homework... I'm going to have to do some catching up when this is over.
Episode 05 - "The Sunny Garden - Finale"
Episode 06 - "Nanami-sama, Beware!"
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*cricket*
I need to catch up on these episodes myself. ): Anyone else think we should extend this or anything?
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Okay so. I'm surprised, truly surprised, that Touga boxes. I mean, it makes sense for him to be into any sport that isn't a team sport--not his thing, I suspect. But boxing is for aristocrats to spectate, not participate, in. It's like the emperor of Rome fighting in the Colosseum (you liked that movie, huh?) I just don't see anything in boxing he can't accomplish with kendo, except that perhaps boxing strips the 'ritualism' of kendo and the spiritual-mindedness. It's the same devotion to strategy, to focus, to knowing your opponent, but the emphasis is less on a diffuse concept of mind-body-spirit and more on mind over matter. Actually I suppose those terms, boxing makes more sense for Touga than kendo does, where it'd sit poorly with Saionji, who is so desperate to infuse his life with meaning.
That said....DUDE. What if someone handed him his ass? He's so vain, I can't imagine him doing well with a broken chin, nose, and clavicle.
Also, how adorable that Miki imagines Touga so sexually. Not without reason obviously, but it's so...cute. I dunno how Touga resisted corrupting that poor little guy.
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Gio: Touga, in the persona he projects in this episode, isn't an aristocrat or lord -- he's a knight! He's showboating for Utena and Nanami, and boxing is a fantastic sport for showboating. I'm sure he doesn't box for real, or at least not against anyone who can beat him.
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There should be an almighty reckon one day, Nanami vs. Animal Kingdom
Also, what was with the cactus Mitsuru lifts after he finishes reminiscing about Nanami and Touga? My understanding is that in flower language cactus=sex, and who doesn't remember the TougaxAkio cactus room scene. I'm not exactly sure what its context is here though.
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satyreyes wrote:
Gio: Touga, in the persona he projects in this episode, isn't an aristocrat or lord -- he's a knight! He's showboating for Utena and Nanami, and boxing is a fantastic sport for showboating. I'm sure he doesn't box for real, or at least not against anyone who can beat him.
...great, now when I watch that scene all I am going to hear is The Rocky Road to Dublin with Robert Downey Jr. narrating in the background...
...actually, this may not be such a bad thing.
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He could certainly nail the ego. But RDJ is a little too rugged to play Touga, don't you think?
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Episode 07 - "Juri's Unfulfillment"
Episode 08 - "The Great Curry High Trip"
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Going by the great curry high trip shot, Anthy- or Anthy's body, rather- has smaller breasts than Nanami. Could Nanami's superiority complex be explained at last? Does size really matter?
Last edited by crystalwren (04-04-2010 11:15:24 PM)
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omg, two of my favorite episodes *watches*
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OMG EPISODE SEVEN.
I'm definitely going to write something down!
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