hyacinth_black wrote:

I second that opinion!

Yes, yes indeed... but as long as it contains some good ol' slash!

You can't have a G-rated Utena fanfic page... somehow and somewhere, Akio's penis will get in the way... *nodnodnod*

If there exists a G-Rated fic site for this show, I'd like to know how many seconds of the edited series would actually make it into the G-Rated video release. ^___^;;

BTW, off-topic -- is that Jhonen Vasquez?

hyacinth_black wrote:

I second that opinion!

Yes, yes indeed... but as long as it contains some good ol' slash!

You can't have a G-rated Utena fanfic page... somehow and somewhere, Akio's penis will get in the way... *nodnodnod*

Don't worry, the old UFR had a lemon section.

I don't think it did in its brief reincarnation under Lady Brick. But yes, I think the original did.

Yasha wrote:

I will think about it. Haven't polled Gio for her opinion yet, but I see no reason not to accept it as an archive/subsite. After all, we've already gotten Chris Rain's permission to archive/make a subsite of the MST's

Ooooooooh, sweet-o.

Oh, before I forget, any chance of there being a ULE archive, too?

Truth be told I've been mulling over this for a while in my head, but I didn't know it'd gone down. The UFR and Chris Rain's MST site are both sites I would be very willing, no, proud to host at Empty Movement. Being both efforts done by other webmasters, I would prefer not to encorporate them into my site, but rather gain permission from the original owners to host on the domain, as I'm hosting a couple other sites. So many SKU sites have disappeared, and those two are classics, I'd love to see them preserved for future generations, as it were. (You haven't lived, cried, or wanted to rip your eyes out until you've read the MSTing of The Observatory of Forbidden Pleasures, which as you can imagine, is about Tsuwabuki going on a camping trip.)

Who was the last person in charge of the UFR? I would like, if possible, to contact them and offer to host the site as a subdomain (ufr.ohtori.nu or something). Since we have Chris Rain's already, I'll need to be getting that show on the road. I would really, really prefer to get permission from someone that had at some point 'legal' permission, although if contacting them proves totally impossible, I may consider stealing it. (As I did with the scripts, although in this case I would host the original site.) If I can't get the webmasters by any means, I would justify it again for the sake of preserving the material; the UFR was a cornerstone, and I'd hate to see newer fans miss out on it and the older ones not being able to go back and enjoy.

Dallbun, do you have a full archive, including the html and images? Is it of the UFR with the naughty bits? (Because I would really prefer to get the whole thing. Especially the naughty bits.) Need to know what you've got there. If not, anyone that has the original addresses feel like seeing if they can beat the Wayback Machine into spitting out the code and images? I'd like to try for a true archive, if I'm going to host it.

onsenmark, was there ever a site created for it? I don't recall...

Edit: Oh, so you've got the code with their e-mail addresses and such?

Also I stumbled on this while searching around. http://www.fanhistory.com/index.php?tit … Girl_Utena Even mentions when we update! (Although they're off by two years about when I opened the site, it was in 2000, I got it its own domain in 2002. )

Last edited by Giovanna (10-21-2006 11:10:27 PM)

Ouch. Apparently there were rather more updates when the site was under Lady Brick than I remember; and also, the Lemon section of the old site was very, very small, at least with the copy I have. It looks like you might need to rely on good old Wayback for your working copy of the UFR, after all.

However, all the content is apparently intact, if not all the images. I'll get everything I can of the last available copy.

Giovanna wrote:

How big is the site you've got there? Under 10MB, I suspect. If so, zip it up and e-mail it to me? I'd like to see what I'm getting into here, heh.

Done and done (and done). Good luck!

Okay, I dug up as many e-mail addresses for both Alan Harnum and Lady Brick as I could and sent out an e-mail asking for permisison and a copy of the site. I'll give them a week or so and see if I get a response, and we'll see what happens from there.

Now I really regret not trying to do this before the site went down, but I feel like an ass contacting people like HAY GIMMIE YOUR SITE. It's not like that at all.

Giovanna wrote:

onsenmark, was there ever a site created for it? I don't recall...

Not that I recall, but it should be too hard to surf Google Groups for any relevant posts. Or you could always post to a.f.u and see if there's any sort of interest in a ULE archive.

Re: ULE fics - If they cannot be found - I saved all of them as .docs or on yahoo acct - YEARS on back.  So, it all else fails . . .

~Katherine

The only qualm I have about the ULE is... Okay, they were lemons, yes, but were they any good? I had to get Gio to explain what the ULE was, so I'm guessing that mostly they weren't terribly remarkable. I usually hear about the good stuff one way or another. Maybe we could keep them as text files in a zip or something?

We're already pretty committed with the Satellite and UFR. I hate to come off as a bitch, but we can't extend ourselves to everything-- if someone else is willing to make a webpage for the ULE, it'd be no problem for us to host it, but since it never had one in the first place we'd have to build one from scratch and we don't have the time for it. You saw how long it took us to get the new site info and Akio shrine in.

Bottom line as far as I'm concerned... I have enough on my plate with the fanfics and wallpapers and analysis and all of that, I don't know the quality of this stuff, and I don't have a whole lot of time to invest in it, especially not if the quality is unknown.

What would you guys be willing to take as far as ULE? The site is our baby, but it would be pointless without all of you. Let me know what you all think, and we'll see what we can work out.

I don't know if I can accept fic submissions to the UFR, exactly... We have our own fanfic page, and it is active now, but the way I was thinking of the UFR is that it would be an archive-- a part of the history of the fandom. That doesn't mean that stories won't get accepted or read, but having to make the distinction between submissions to EM and submissions to UFR, with their own assorted sets of rules, and the possibility of people not getting into one and trying for the other...

It makes my head hurt, precious. I'm only one person, and this isn't all of my life.

I can promise you one thing-- that if an EM fanfic is related to a UFR fanfic, they'll be crosslinked. It would be stupid not to. And any submissions can be sent to EM, even if they continue from UFR fics.

Of course, this isn't firm, it's my kneejerk reaction to having to run two fanfic sites

I love you guys but