This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)
#51 | Back to Top11-02-2006 01:50:02 PM
Re: Erm, not to sound dumb but what is this?
But they're protecting marriage!
</depressed sarcasm>
I've never been quite sure what they're protecting marriage from. I mean, they keep saying they're protecting it from the gays, but I'm not sure what, exactly, they think we'll do to marriage. I mean, I like calling my wife "wife" just because I can, and there's the whole medical insurance thing, and inheritance, and... I can't see anything that my marriage is doing to anyone else's marriage. Except, perhaps, showing up the shattering het marriages around us... 
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#52 | Back to Top11-02-2006 02:10:51 PM
Re: Erm, not to sound dumb but what is this?
tohubohu wrote:
I've never been quite sure what they're protecting marriage from.
Rawr family values rawr holy union between man and wife rawr, and so forth. Frankly, there's nothing gay people can do to cheapen the value of marriage and desecrate the holiness of the bond or whatever that straight people haven't already thoroughly covered. At this point, I see no reason to deny gays marriage based on some ideal of its value that no one upholds anyway. The relationship thing is fine and dandy, but the legal advantages are at this point less perks for the married than screwing the rest of us totally over. A whole population of people shouldn't be cut off from access to ruthlessly manipulating the system simply on account of their gender preference, it's ridiculous. 
Akio, you have nice turns of phrase, but your points aren't clear and you have no textual support. I can't give this a passing grade.
~ Professor Arisa Konno, Eng 1001 (Freshman Literature and Composition)
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#53 | Back to Top11-02-2006 11:49:55 PM
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Re: Erm, not to sound dumb but what is this?
I think they're protecting it from making them look bad, because the average straight marriage lasts something like seven years while the average super-committed gay "we would get married if they'd let us" relationship lasts closer to fifteen.
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source.
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