This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#76 | Back to Top08-20-2011 06:34:58 AM

Registered: 08-17-2011
Posts: 564

Re: Nanami!

All I know is that as soon as my associate Josef and I watched the episode where Nanami reveals that she killed that cat, he's always had some choice words for her.  I'd repeat those choice words, but I don't want to get banned.  Anatomy is involved, though, as are dimly lit parking garages.



#77 | Back to Top08-20-2011 12:51:54 PM

High Tripper
From: Washington, DC
Registered: 06-13-2011
Posts: 245

Re: Nanami!

At that age, I don't think Nanami really came to grips with the fact that she was killing the kitten, just that she was getting rid of a barricade between herself and her brother, but others in this thread have addressed that complaint better already, so if reading their comments won't change your mind, mine definitely won't!

I always saw Nanami as a foil for Utena.  In episode 17, Juri and Akio both talk about pain caused by innocence, and I think Nanami carries this the best.  She wants people to suffer humiliation, but she's completely innocent of the notion of suffering.  In a way, she's aware that she's cruel, but just how deep it goes is beyond her, especially when she's innocent of meddling.

This changes later in the series, of course, and I think the turning point for her is really when Tsuwabuki talks about adulthood.  By the way, can you say masterful?

She also shares Utena's stubbornness, and the Cowbell episode is my favorite for that.  Nanami sticks to her own principles without realizing her own naivete, and to pit Utena against her at every turn shouldn't be over-looked (Don't compare that to my clothes!).  Utena really has no idea what she's doing either, which is why Anthy gives her the red sweater.

All these similarities make diru's point very plausible.  I only wonder whether Nanami would be capable of forming a close bond with Anthy, given that she's completely jealous of her.



#78 | Back to Top10-03-2011 12:54:38 AM

Mikage Mistruster
From: dueling arena
Registered: 10-01-2011
Posts: 64

Re: Nanami!

Ragnarok wrote:

Nanami's Egg is my personal favourite Nanami-centric episode. Go-go Touga super hypocrite powers!

Tell me about it. That's the episode where Touga says it's bad to be gay even if it's spiritually fulfilling! It shows you how twisted he is.

"The bells signal the start of the duel, Anthy! You forget yourself."



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