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#76 | Back to Top01-08-2013 07:06:31 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

satyreyes wrote:

Iris wrote:

Use the properties of exponents to simplify the expression
http://assess.math.sunysb.edu:8080/tmp/ … fhijoh.png

The answer is:
http://assess.math.sunysb.edu:8080/tmp/ … gakani.png but I need to figure out how to get there.

Hey Iris! emot-biggrin  The question looks borked from here.  That garbage at the beginning -- the square root sign with the angle under it, the empty absolute value bars, and the hollow dot -- doesn't mean anything in the context of this problem.  Someone probably meant to write a fraction there -- probably something like (a)/(b*c^(1/2)), based on the intended answer -- but some computer error caused it to come across wrong.  You should alert whoever's responsible for administering placement tests. emot-smile

Hope this is helpful!

Well, that makes me feel a good deal better lol.  I looked and that and was very discouraged. 
Thank you!  I'm sure I'll have a lot more questions.


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#77 | Back to Top01-08-2013 07:18:33 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

Rereading my answer to your question made me slap myself on the head.  emot-biggrin  That garbage is garbage and you should definitely contact someone about it, but I figured out what the question is supposed to look like.  This is what you should be seeing:


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/satyreyes/exponents_zps893f0a9b.png

There!!

Now, if the question had looked like this in the first place, would you know how to solve it?

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#78 | Back to Top01-08-2013 09:38:17 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

Iris wrote:

Use the properties of exponents to simplify the expression
http://assess.math.sunysb.edu:8080/tmp/lf/em/kc/ebinhfjcenogmmacdpldfhijoh.png

satyreyes wrote:

Rereading my answer to your question made me slap myself on the head.    That garbage is garbage and you should definitely contact someone about it, but I figured out what the question is supposed to look like.  This is what you should be seeing:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/satyreyes/exponents_zps893f0a9b.png


There!!

Now, if the question had looked like this in the first place, would you know how to solve it?

But what about the absolute value symbols? Or am I thinking too much? Or too little?

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#79 | Back to Top01-08-2013 10:02:38 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

The absolute value sign could be more computer-generated nonsense.  It's also possible that it was meant to go around the fraction, which, strictly speaking, would be needed to keep this problem in the real numbers when a, b, and c may be less than zero -- though strictly speaking, the answer should then be between absolute value signs too, and God save you if a or b is equal to zero.  It's a sloppily written problem compounded by a technical glitch.

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#80 | Back to Top01-08-2013 10:53:59 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

satyreyes wrote:

Rereading my answer to your question made me slap myself on the head.  emot-biggrin  That garbage is garbage and you should definitely contact someone about it, but I figured out what the question is supposed to look like.  This is what you should be seeing:


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/ … 3f0a9b.png

There!!

Now, if the question had looked like this in the first place, would you know how to solve it?

I think so. 
Writing with a tablet is fifty times harder than drawing with one.  Eeeek.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/IrisBeloved/stuff/maths_zps30ee9c0a.jpg
So, the answer I got to the problem the way Satyr wrote it is the same as the answer they give.

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#81 | Back to Top01-08-2013 11:03:13 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

Hmm.  There's some right and some wrong in there!  In Steps 1 and 2, it looks like you're squaring all of the exponents -- but there's no reason to do this and it only makes your life harder emot-smile  Instead, begin the problem with Step 3.  In Step 3, you correctly started with the original problem.  Correctly ignoring the square root sign for now, you canceled out exponents for the variables that are found on both the top and bottom of the fraction.  That gave you c*b^2 on the top and a^2 on the bottom.  Then you took the square root of that fraction in Step 4 by dividing all exponents by two.  The b^2 became just b, the a^2 became just a, and the c became c^(1/2), because c is the same as c^1.

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#82 | Back to Top01-08-2013 11:29:25 PM

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Re: The Desperately-Needed Homework Help thread

satyreyes wrote:

Hmm.  There's some right and some wrong in there!  In Steps 1 and 2, it looks like you're squaring all of the exponents -- but there's no reason to do this and it only makes your life harder emot-smile  Instead, begin the problem with Step 3.  In Step 3, you correctly started with the original problem.  Correctly ignoring the square root sign for now, you canceled out exponents for the variables that are found on both the top and bottom of the fraction.  That gave you c*b^2 on the top and a^2 on the bottom.  Then you took the square root of that fraction in Step 4 by dividing all exponents by two.  The b^2 became just b, the a^2 became just a, and the c became c^(1/2), because c is the same as c^1.

Okay, I wondered why the tutorial I found told me to do that when dealing with exponential fractions under a radical.  Made no sense, but I went with it. 
Thank you for your help!  I really appreciate it.


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