Lightice wrote:

In the movie, however, that boy was Touga. This, most definately wasn't the case in the series, as the series Touga is very much alive.

Unless he's actually a vampire.

I think that particular scene was symbolic, it foreshadowed what was going to happen to Utena. Just like that boy, she also did everything she could to save Anthy, you could say she sacrificed herself for Anthy. The fact that neither Juri or her sister remembered his name also refers to Utena being forgotten in the end.

The story Juri tells of the boy that saved her sister is meant as foreshadowing.  Remember as Juri tells the story, the final dual is going on and all of the counsel knows something big is going to come out of it becuase, in a way, they were all "saved" by Utena.  Juri expressed how angry she was that her sister quickly forgot all about the boy that saved her and that she'd promised herself she'd never forget like her sister.  Yet, for all she tried, now that time has passed and it's not relevent anymore, she couldn't remember his name.  I believe this was her way of warning everyone on the counsel that they will eventually forget Utena once she's gone, no matter how hard they try not to, and because of this, they should honor her sacrifice right then, for as long as they could.

It's also a portrayal of how Dios would have ended up without Anthy's intervention.

Whether or not Akio is better off at the end of the series is fun to ponder.

ShatteredMirror wrote:

Ragnarok wrote:

It's also a portrayal of how Dios would have ended up without Anthy's intervention.

Dude. Didn't even think of that. I tip my hat to you.

If it wasn't for Anthy, the whole SKU story would never have occurred; the other characters would have led less interesting lives (at least from our point of view) and most importantly anime as a genre would be greatly diminished. Not to mention giving us all a reason to get together in a forum such as this.

The only downside I can see from the existance of SKU is the veritable genocide of kittens that has occurred from SKU fans masturbating to characters like Nanami, Utena, Akio, Anthy, Juri, Touga, Miki and even the Shadow Girls. (I know you out there )

I think the movie plot is the series through the warped lens of what the fans think the series was and what they wanted. I mean, take a look: Touga was noble, and dead. Akio falls out the window and dies. There's nudity. Anthy and Utena kiss, and it's all but clearly stated that they end up together. Shiori is Ends of the World. Juri is the Prince of the school.

Ikuhara's nuts. I adore him. I mean, really. The Utenamobile? Sure, it's symbolic. But it's also just nuts.

Hi, I too had wondered about that...until came Mawaru Penguindrum, and so, I came across che movie "Night On The Galactic Railroad", curios to watch it for the reference in the anime. Well, I think that watching this movie or having watched it, can be of help to explain most visual simbolism in MPD....and, being this movie prior to SKU, I am pretty sure that the drowned boy story also came from it.  But you gotta watch it, 'cause explaining here the reference, would be  a big spoiler of the final.

So, if you wanna watch it for yourself....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHl_21LipQ&list=PLdVIojwpcIJbWwB17r5F_fKUxfABBcaH3

Also, can I ask if whoever whatched this movie could reply and tell me if they agree? Without telling the final, of course.

(oh, I remember now that actually there's a spoiler button to write it down, but sorry, if you wanna use it you're welcome, I am too lazy and I'm busy right now...)

Last edited by SeizonSenryaku (09-12-2014 07:28:37 AM)