Wow . . . Ikuhara and the Be Papas need to regroup and animate this thing out, seriously!

Absolute Nursery Apocalypse - best anime post 2012!!

I actually think the male lead is obviously MIKAGE - remember the shadow play in his "graduation" ep?  He was, in SKU, a man who regressed from an adult Professor into a school boy, so having Touga mindfuck him into regressing further into a nursery kid will fit just RIGHT with the canon.

This is actually a VERY good sequel idea - post revolution Utena finding out she has Akio's love child from their sexing, and her trauma, coupled with the Power of Dios she has gained, again changing reality such that the Nursery came into being.  God, I would so write out this thing . . . if not for the fact that I want Ikuhara to animate it even more!

Anthy still can fit into this, as an inspector from the government's eduation ministry (coming in from the "outside world"), perhaps?  Tokiko could be her colleague, even . . .

BlackBeforeRed wrote:
U/A were originally concieved as ONE character.

Could Anthy have gone after Utena post series just so they can again be one in the most literal sense?

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BlackBeforeRed wrote:
There were a lot of weird original ideas in those nifty little booklets. Maybe somebody should post them up so we can all discuss/rofl

Oh, I hope so . . . since I never got the box set, all the info in these booklets are so new to me . . .

EDIT: BlackBeforeRed got to it before me.
I think the best concept was the ORIGINAL original, where Utena has a dragon's head on her chest that extends when she fights.

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Atropos:

where Utena has a dragon's head on her chest that extends when she fights.

Is that supposed to be a phallic symbolism thingie that shows her masculine side?

To all you out there in possession of the eng-translated booklets: PLEASE POST!!!

Edited to add:

Having read what Honorable Shadow said . . .

YAY!!!!!!

Last edited by gorgeousshutin (08-14-2012 01:44:44 PM)

. . . still eagerly awaiting the first of the eng-translated booklet scans to feed plot bunnies . . .

p.s. Is there ANYWHERE in the booklets hinting that SKU and MP are of the same universe?  In the Nemuro graduation ep, he recalled the black rose boys having a feast of wine and APPLES while being INVISIBLE, and decades later, Kanae is shown being fed APPLES by "Double A" . . .

Last edited by gorgeousshutin (08-16-2012 10:04:22 AM)

BlackBeforeRed wrote:
Sadly, there is no mention of penguindrum in the booklets emot-frown

Oh well . . .

Anyway, thanks for clearing this up for me, and sorry about your scanner!

Atropos wrote:
Actually, the commentary for episode 14 features a few lines that will probably be familiar to Penguindrum viewers...

YESSS!!!!!!!!!
Can someone please scan/type it please?!  SKU cross MP head canon all the way!!!!

HonorableShadow my fandom HERO

Years later, the phrase "the winning side" was popular in the media. I thought it was horrid. And sure enough, people started using the opposite phrase "the losing side" as a masochistic joke. I still couldn't laugh, though.

One day, a girl I saw on TV said, "There are only two types of people in this world: the ones who are chosen and the ones who aren't chosen."

That gave me a start.

"To not be chosen is to die," said the girl.

The above is actually a more-clearly (and more emotionally effective) presented version of the same message we see in Penguindrum . . . oh my God . . .  MP really is (at least metaphor-wise, if not event-wise) a continuation/expansion of SKU's Black Rose Saga, thus meaning that my personal canon of Nemuro research leading to Kiga magic may actually have legs!  No wonder you like MP so much, Shadow - your preference is clear to see in your sig image.

Again, thank you so much!

BlackBeforeRed wrote:

My apologies, I completely missed that That is a pretty interesting theme to compare between SKU and MP though. The chosen idea does have a part to play in SKU, mostly in the BRS particularly with Wakaba. So I guess it's an idea he expanded upon into it's own series. Guess this is why Penguindrum reminds me of the Black Rose Saga

I was just thinking that reminded me with the episode with Wakaba, with the idea that there are "special" people in the world, like Utena, and a lot of ordinary people like Wakaba.

Interesting to see the way he chose to take it with Penguindrum though, with the unchosen being crushed and turned to glass... though I've always assumed that isn't a literal death, more like a death of personality or dreams...

But it also says that the father of the children never existed, so...what?

No wonder you like MP so much, Shadow - your preference is clear to see in your sig image.

Haha, yeah, it is definitely my favorite arc!

I was just thinking that reminded me with the episode with Wakaba, with the idea that there are "special" people in the world, like Utena, and a lot of ordinary people like Wakaba.

I was reading through the booklet yesterday, and there was a quote about Wakaba from one of the story-board creators that I really liked. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines that all the "special people" in Utena are lacking something. Since Wakaba wasn't really lacking anything and was well-rounded, she couldn't be a special person. I thought that was an interesting take on why she wasn't special.