I think in Saionji's case, its simply a variation of a theme. The other student council guys all have the same. Saionji is just unfortunate enough to have green hair.


Also, I want Utena to weaar PANTS. PANTS GOD DAMN YOU. WHY DOESN'T ANYONE NOTICE SHE DOESN'T WEAR PANTS.


I'm also 99% certain that they were colourblind. And this comes from someone who sees the world in a weird purple over brown tint.




[edit:] Maybe Kanae chose them. Cause god knows, mint and orange juice are a terrible combination, as anyone who's brushed teeth right before breakfast can attest to.

Last edited by allegoriest (01-06-2010 08:50:04 PM)

Wow.  That's a fantastic eye for detail, dundundun.  Dun dun dun!  And yes, the reuse of that sweater (with the collar cut off, no less!) definitely speaks to the threatened corruption of Utena's friendship with Anthy.  Either that or she thought Akio was a bull.

Oitl in another thread wrote:

I'm one of the people who think she did this partly by seducing him, and partly through magic.  When Dio's comes to see Utena in her coffin, his collar is undone, which is a fashion-statement used by both Akio and Touga later in the series to represent entwined power and sexuality.  In the flashback, Dios wear's white and Anthy wears a red dress and gold bracelets.  Akio wears a red shirt and gold armbands, and Dio's white hair becomes Akio's light lavender.  Symbolic of Anthy's meddling, perhaps?  And by present time in the series, Anthy now reaps what she has sown, and sex between the two is a emotionless and twisted act used to fill unsightly desires and exert dominance.

BONUS NOTE:  I mentioned earlier that Akio wearing Anthy's red color and gold bands could be symbolism of her seduction, and also mentioned that he uses sex to both dominate and mock her and remind her of her guilt.  Whenever the two are seen pre or post-coitus in the series, it is implied that during the act, Akio remains as clothed as possible, while Anthy is pretty much always nude.  This may not just be a way of expressing dominance and control, as nudity can be used to humiliate one and make them appear or feel vulnerable and not in control, but may also be Akio doing it on purpose to nonverbally drive home to Anthy the guilt and shame he wants her to feel for being the one who tainted him, by reminding her of their little roll in the hay back in the shed during every sexual encounter they have.

This is one of the main reasons, or things I interpret to mean, to be more accurate, that it was Anthy who initiated their sexual relationship, because it is Akio's appearance who is altered to resemble Anthy, it is Akio who's image is, shall we say, tainted, not the other way around.  I think to an extent, he is aware of this, and the resemblance in clothing is intentional, he wears it to remind Anthy of her transgressions and mock her, to gain back some semblance of control. 

Does it represent control?  Possibly.  Though who holds the power is left ambiguous, who belongs to who, since they are both wearing red and while Akio may have chosen to, the reason he chose to is Anthy.  *passive-agressive Anthy glasses flash.* 

Also, the color red, as with Akio's car, Anthy's rosebride dress, and Touga's setokai color is used in Utena to represent adulthood defined by sexual maturity and power, as opposed to emotional or intellectual. 

And maybe I'll mention that, once again, Anthy was originally the one to wear red.

(Though, it could be a whole 'nother can of beans to say that maybe she only did because she was marked by society as a Witch long before the incident in the shed. 

Society:  You hang out with the Prince too much.  Slut.
Anthy: Orly?  Show you slut.
Society & Dios: omg.  )



And as for Saionji, I guess he's just unlucky, as with some uniforms (Juri, and Wakaba) the outfit eventually grows on you, but his signature color was green, and instead of choosing a shade that could look nicely on him, they went with the standard Ohtori issue pale green.    Really though, I don't think it's that green isn't his color, white isn't.  He looks WAY better in darker colors like Royal blue and black.  See:  His kendo outfit, young Saionji's turtleneck, and Movie!Saionji's uniform. 

Whether or not this is intended to be symbolic or just a byproduct of design is up to the viewer, though it may be interesting to note that Utena and Touga look good in either.

Last edited by OnlyInThisLight (01-07-2010 07:49:57 AM)

allegoriest wrote:

Also, I want Utena to weaar PANTS. PANTS GOD DAMN YOU. WHY DOESN'T ANYONE NOTICE SHE DOESN'T WEAR PANTS.

I think this is something that both the characters in the series and sometimes even fans overlook.  Everyone says that Utena wears a "boy's uniform," but really... it's not a boy's uniform at all.  It's more traditionally "masculine" than the skirted and puff-sleeved girl's uniform at Ohtori, but none of the boys wear it.  And it's less traditionally masculine than, say, Juri's (who does wear actual pants).

Once of my close friends went to a fancy private school, and their colour was juuuuuust about Ohtori Green.


Dunno if that's what colour their uniforms were, but I pray it wasn't.




I don't think you can really count them off on a colour shade really. I mean, her hair is a different colour in like... every single shot ever. They're so very inconsistent.

Aya wrote:

I don't think it's so much the design that makes it so terrible, but the color. It's ok on the girl's uniform since there's less of it, but on the boy's uniform... Why would a school choose that color? Ever? It just makes the male half of their students a walking eye sore!

I think clearly it's so that the girls will not vent their sexual frustration on the boys, leaving more for Akio.

satyreyes wrote:

Aya wrote:

I don't think it's so much the design that makes it so terrible, but the color. It's ok on the girl's uniform since there's less of it, but on the boy's uniform... Why would a school choose that color? Ever? It just makes the male half of their students a walking eye sore!

I think clearly it's so that the girls will not vent their sexual frustration on the boys, leaving more for Akio.

A red shirt and Purple tie? Akio isn't doing much better on the fashion front. lol

Ooo, I see now. Akio is just an anime visionary!

The blue lining is to make him look more Brokeback, methinks.

I agree with Ashnod, I don't think it is.  The necklines are WAY too off (at least four inches)... the second one doesn't even cover the tops of Utena's shoulders.

Though you could argue that the animators fudged up, I guess.

Wool is washed normally much less then other fabrics. Sometimes I think you have to dry clean them IIRC. Color change seems less likely.
Man does this thread reminds me of Peach Girl and the fact that the artist basically drew every fashion known to humans in the manga.

BlackRoseVixen wrote:

http://www.ohtori.nu/galerie/d/5844-1/S … 14_055.jpg

Sometimes I have to wondor if Miki's uniform jacket is secretly corsetted... His waist is very tiny. For a boy.

Miki's what, 14? It's not surprising he's so skinny. What's surprising is his shoulders are so much broader than his hips.