That does sound cool! Whedon is an anime fan, who's to say he wasn't influenced bu Utena?

They're both strong, naive, good-hearted and girly. It also helps that Buffy's basically a mahou shoujo show hand-crafted for an American audience.

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She maintains a steadfast belief in the banalities of suburban American life throughout. I mean, that's basically Why She Fights.

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She's still a utilitarian figure raging against the forces of patriarchy with one foot in the new world and another in the world of old world privilege (Mom's art gallery).

The concept in and of itself isn't that imaginative, so I find it unlikely that Whedon was influence by Utena either directly or indirectly.  I would also argue that Buffy does it for humanity and other people, while I think Utena does it almost completely for herself (and maybe Anthy). 

Buffy and Utena make a pretty interesting foil though.  Buffy understands her despair early on and has a long time to think about her decision, while Utena is smashed with it, and essentially acts on instinct throughout the entire final scene.

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Overlord Morgus wrote:

The concept in and of itself isn't that imaginative

You mean the last duel, or Buffy itself? I agree, I've acknowledged that it's Sailor Moon Sunnydale.

I laughed. 

I meant the concept of the last duel.  Namely, people who have done it are fighting, one of them starts to lose, but then finds some strength and comes out victorious.  That's really all that's common between SKU's finale and end Season 2 Buffy, so it's quite likely that writers came up with the scenes independently.

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