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OnlyInThisLight wrote:

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

Except the message was very...vague, to the point that TERFS interpreted it as Trans Women supposedly invading Women's Spaces. :/

itavin wrote:

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

I guess you could see the episode like that, but that still doesn't make the episode good by any means. If you do claim that this is about how to be an ally, it doesn't work since Steven could have just told Ronald from the start how to be a better ally and explain to him about the Crystal gems, like he did with Connie, or any of the Crystal gems did anything to help despite the fact that I could see them stepping in and correcting him on his offensive idea's. Also about the women's space thing, isn't Steven a boy who interfered their space and so did Greg? I am not sure what did you really mean by that statement and I may have misunderstood it but to say that Ronald has interfered with their space first feels kind of wrong.

I think this essay explains it pretty well: https://www.themarysue.com/steven-unive … rocknaldo/

Especially these bits:

This dance of someone being called out, declaring an intention to make good, and then making it all about themselves is so real it practically pops off the screen; and Ronaldo’s antics are given weight and consequence because of Steven’s role in the story, who’s genuinely hurt and upset rather than being able to just roll his eyes and walk away...

The passive aggressive comments Ronaldo makes when he announces himself open to learning about this marginalized group, only to find he’s not immediately the star of the show and the most lauded part of this community....

YamPuff wrote:

Anyone here watching this humble, understated little cartoon heavily influenced by Shoujo Kakumei Utena?
Diverse cast, sensitive and progressive handling of gender roles, nuanced character development, canon lesbians, I could go on for hours.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/ … g~original

ZETTAI UNMMEI-- no wait, wrong cartoon.

I am waiting for the #StevenBomb happening June 15th, can't wait!

OMG, I never realized that the Moon Spire is exactly like the dueling arena!!  How did I miss that?

I can't wait form more episodes!  I just say Lion 4 Alternate ending.

YamPuff wrote:

Also this:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/ … g~original

It get's weirder when she shapeshifts into Rose...  This all heavily implies the Amethyst and Greg have gotten it on at some point.

YamPuff wrote:

is the Gem placement in any way significant?

The only time I have seen any significance to the gem placement would be the Ruby squad.  Each one's Gem is placed in areas that reflect the personality of the branch of the US military.  Like Navy (her gem  is in her naval) is super gay (flamboyant really), Army (her gem is in her arm) is though... ETC.  "Eyeball" or as I like to call her Ruby Fury (like of Nick Fury) is, well, like Nick Fury- leader type.  COuld be interpreted as intelligence like the CIA but I dunno.

Revolutionary wrote:

I liked watching Last One Out of Beach City (90's style teen movie! Rebel Pearl!). It gives Pearl some development, lets her find herself again, and is just fun all around. The only thing I'm not sure about is Mystery Girl. It's great for Pearl to finally move on, but I loved Pearl x Rose, and I don't want S. to just be a replacement for Rose. We shall see.
The hiatus is killing me too, but the shorts help and I've been spending time looking at fan art, comics, and memes and discussing the show with some friends.

I loooooove this episode so much!!!  I don't think of Mystery girl as a replacement for Rose, but rather Pearl has a type that she's into. (Big ladies with Pink hair... I can't blame her!)

I love all the characters so much but the two that speak to me the most are Pearl and Garnet.  Garnet because she's just awesome and everything I want a relationship to be.  I identify with Pearl the most.  OCD, anxiety ridden, and unsure of herself and her identity... not to mention queer AF.

Sorry for all the edits to this post.  I read through the WHOLE thread while at work today and rather than having a millions posts responding to each new thing I wanted to talk about I just edited them into one post.

I just wanna say I love that we want to know more about Rose and only slowly get to learn about her over time because we are experiencing all of this from Steven's perspective.

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YamPuff wrote:

I am getting to the point where I am wondering less and less about Rose and Pink Diamond's backstory and more about why the Gems are keeping Steven in the dark. Do the writers have a good reason, or are they just keeping us (and so Steven) without knowledge???

It's also starting to annoy me a little: every design I see on Tumblr of redrawn Lapis looks way better than canon Lapis. Gold freckles, darker skin, wilder hair. I know she's so loved by the fandom but man is her canon design boring!

I think we're getting to the end game with the show honestly.  With Ruby squad heading to Home World the Diamonds will find out about Steven and shit is going to hit the fan.  The episodes have become more epic (when we don't get filler bullshit like Rocknaldo or the baseball episode) (and yes some will argue it's world building and etc, but we're almost into season 5.  the world is BUILT damn it).

It has come to a point with Rose's back story that I think you're right, the Gem's not telling him what's up is actually more harmful to Steven at this point... going so far as Greg was taken b/c Garnet didn't want to tell Steven what the litter he kept seeing was.

Lapis is pretty cool but I find her kinda boring these days.  The writers need to bring her and Peridot into the central fold.  We see so little of them I kinda don't even care what they are doing anymore.

We have three place settings more or less 1.) The Temple/The Crystal Gems, 2.) Beach City (all human cast members), and 3.) The Farm (Lapis and Peridot).  With the number of episodes we get from Beach City and The farm, I feel like the could be eliminated, or we need more frequent episodes there to keep them relevant.  Other wise when we get episodes like Rocknaldo they feel like they just broke momentum toward the main story. (imo)

YamPuff wrote:

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD

I need to see this now!!!!!!!

With the episode titles available I can only guess which one is making Pearl cry.

Also [I really wonder if White Diamond is a fusion of the three Diamonds we know of.  It's like they are three parts of a personality.
  Yellow is clearly to business/survivor/strength aspect, Blue is clearly sorrrow, and from what we've seen of Pink Diamond's legion, Pink may have been joy.  Together they would make white (since they're creatures of light and with lore from the app Game ATTACK OF LIGHT).  What do you all think? ]

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YamPuff wrote:

LadyButterflyNebula wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD

I need to see this now!!!!!!!

With the episode titles available I can only guess which one is making Pearl cry.

Also [I really wonder if White Diamond is a fusion of the three Diamonds we know of.  It's like they are three parts of a personality.
  Yellow is clearly to business/survivor/strength aspect, Blue is clearly sorrrow, and from what we've seen of Pink Diamond's legion, Pink may have been joy.  Together they would make white (since they're creatures of light and with lore from the app Game ATTACK OF LIGHT).  What do you all think? ]

http://i.imgur.com/1fsRV5v.jpg

That is one really good theory - I like that! Not sure if true considering[ the dismissive attitude Gems have towards fusions as something only weak Gems do (if the Diamonds do it, then wouldn't everyone want to emulate them?--unless no one knows that White Diamond is a fusion). That would mean that Pink Diamond's death is doubly bad because they can no longer form white diamond without her!]

Oh yes.
[See that's what I think!  I think the Diamonds use it and are threatened by the strength gems can gain by fusing together.  It's like nuclear power.  You want to have it on your side but not by the side of anyone who could use it against you.  This would also explain how Rose's rebellion was so successful.  As individuals gems are limited in their powers, but if enough fused together they could become more powerful than the Diamonds (Possibly even more powerful than White Diamond).  This theaory would also explain the "new" home world insignia with White Diamond on top, Blue and Yellow below, but the whole thing is enveloped in green, the color we would get from mixing blue and yellow.  I would argue that Homeworld hasn't seen White Diamond since Pink Diamond's shattering, has no idea that White Diamond is a fusion, and treat fusion like heresy to keep the power of fusion from their subjects]

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[ Topaz kind of reminds me of mori sempai from ouran. Also aquamarine is a gem and not a fusion and is the best thing in SU that has ever happened.] Also the new episodes were pretty dope except the Lars episode and parts of Connie's dad episode, but other then that its okay.

YamPuff wrote:

The latest Steven Bomb was awesome. I love where it's going.
Looks like it resumes May 31st so we won't have to be in hiatus hell for too long

I would say I can't wait but that's only a few days now! (but yeah it's killing me not to know more now!!!!)

Now theorizing: [  Steven's en-route to Homeworld...  I feel like unless they open the world up by A LOT we're entering the end game of the series.  This has always been a story of a boy growing up with the loss of his mother and his unconventional family with Magical Girl tones and real world messages.  I'm looking forward to Homeworld and gem civilization, but realistically, how long will a kids show run and how much more can they tell in Steven Universe without "jumping the shark"]

itavin wrote:

Also, how the fuck can you shatter someone with a sword? Makes no sense.[/color]]

[I think that's the clue that Rose didn't kill Pink Diamond.  Rose's Sword cuts through the Gem's physical form, leaving the Gem itself completely unharmed.  Blue Diamond heard that it was the sword that shattered her.  So someone lied to her, or, at some point Rose destroyed Pink Diamond's physical form, and that was seen has her shattering her, but something else happened to Pink Diamond herself.  This puts into question if Pink Diamond was ever even shattered in the first place.  She may be bubbled and hidden by Rose or Yellow Diamond, she may have disappeared of her own volition to live a different kind of life.]

Things of interest:

The old broken fusion statue underneath homeworld, specifically a fusion of 2 different gems. So multi-gem-fusion was not always a bad thing, hmmm?

The tunnels upon tunnels of kindergartens; as stated, homeworld has drained itself of resources and can no longer produce new gems. An interesting thought; a species that can not survive and grow without destroying the planets they live upon. Can this be solved somehow?

White Diamond is everywhere and yet nowhere.

So Lion is, essentially, a zombie lion?

The popular theory going around now is that Pearl shattered Pink Diamond, but I simply don't buy it???

The new fusion gem; is she a Pearl and a Ruby??? Inquiring minds wish to know. She definitely has Sardonyx and Garnet vibes going on.

I NEED TO SEE WHAT THESE AGATES ARE ALL ABOUT MAN. They're like, the personal bodyguards of Diamonds or something??

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SULeaks/commen … rten_gems/ It was confirmed it was a Ruby and Pearl.

Yams wrote:

HonorableShadow wrote:

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SULeaks/commen … rten_gems/ It was confirmed it was a Ruby and Pearl.

What is it about Rubies that makes other gems so thirsty???

Well, it may be that they are just very hot and rough.

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