This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#51 | Back to Top12-03-2006 12:52:35 PM

Romanticide
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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Blade wrote:

To each their own. I find something as ridiculous and cool as giving Alexander Anderson a nonsensical Scottish accent to be perfectly in line with Hellsing. Basically everything in Hellsing is both cool and utterly ridiculous. Except "The Dawn", which is just ridiculous. I'm gonna guess you haven't seen it if you think the characters have any seriousness left to take away. emot-tongue

Did you got past volume 5!!! emot-aaa Hellsing is serious as nazi and vampires can't get!!...ehh....ahhh... It's serious dammit!!!



Lightice wrote:

Romanticide wrote:

Darkhorse edition *hate* *stab* *hate* Not only the silly accents are extremely dificult to understand also take away seriousness from the characters emot-gonk

Alexander Anderson a serious character? Mind boggles...
Seriously, Hellsing manga is supposed to be comical, for good part of it. Still, I agree, reading written accents gets on my nerves.

If your opinion of comical is a big war in london, Dracula releasing dead souls to terminate most of the enemy armies and then a flashback of his youth when he is only thought in mind was God as the sultan raped him... then is so damn funny...

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#52 | Back to Top12-03-2006 01:27:31 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

If your opinion of comical is a big war in london, Dracula releasing dead souls to terminate most of the enemy armies and then a flashback of his youth when he is only thought in mind was God as the sultan raped him... then is so damn funny...

Perhaps I worded wrong: to have comical elements in it would be better way to say it. I've read only the early part of the manga and most of those volumes seemed to be about laughs. Sure, there are serious parts, as well, no doubt of that. A bit like Doctor Who - comedy and serious content in the same package.

In any case the whole premise of Hellsing is so silly that trying to be completely serious about it would be pointless - the TV series tried and only managed to add unintentional comedy. I mean, nazi vampires? Catholic super-soldiers of Vatican? Come on!


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#53 | Back to Top12-03-2006 01:46:07 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Lightice wrote:

Perhaps I worded wrong: to have comical elements in it would be better way to say it. I've read only the early part of the manga and most of those volumes seemed to be about laughs. Sure, there are serious parts, as well, no doubt of that. A bit like Doctor Who - comedy and serious content in the same package.

Ok now we are speaking the same language, the early volumes have many comedy but the serious parts longer and the comedy starts to disapear as the volumes go by. Unless you count black humor.

In any case the whole premise of Hellsing is so silly that trying to be completely serious about it would be pointless - the TV series tried and only managed to add unintentional comedy. I mean, nazi vampires? Catholic super-soldiers of Vatican? Come on!

The whole premise is silly, the whole idea is hilarious but so is "the series about a girl who want to be a prince" and "a boy who wants  to be the best ninja/shaman/trainer/etc. Face it most of the anime premise's are hilarious, but still is not the story is how is told to you. Kohta Hirano has seen too much anime, read too much about nazis and vampires, played to much videogames and seen/written to much porn. So Hellsing is very hilarious, sick and damn serious. The fanatism and bumps between protestants have exist since forever, give supernatural elements to both, add some Nazis and give them the same elements to both and you have Hellsing.


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#54 | Back to Top12-03-2006 05:49:43 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

To getr somewhat back on topic...

Here's a fic parodying the idea I enjoyed. (Found on UFR whee!) Though I do tend to have a pretty vicious sense of humor.

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#55 | Back to Top12-03-2006 06:05:14 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

skewed_tartan wrote:

To getr somewhat back on topic...

Here's a fic parodying the idea I enjoyed. (Found on UFR whee!) Though I do tend to have a pretty vicious sense of humor.

In some ways, I wouldn't mind seeing this version emot-biggrin *eyes VirtualDub and Sound Recorder*


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#56 | Back to Top12-03-2006 07:30:20 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

emot-biggrin

I must admit these were my favorite episodes:

Episode Twenty-Two: The Crisis Counselor's Office (It's decorated very
nicely, and everybody goes there.)

Episode Twenty-Three: Samuel the Counselor (Samuel's shocking past as a
child molester is revealed. Nobody goes to the crisis counselor anymore.)

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#57 | Back to Top12-03-2006 07:52:29 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Romanticide wrote:

Did you got past volume 5!!! emot-aaa Hellsing is serious as nazi and vampires can't get!!...ehh....ahhh... It's serious dammit!!!

I get every volume as it comes out, I bought all the anime, and I'll buy the next anime and The Dawn if they come out here too.

Hellsing is so ridiculously, ludicrously over the top that I can't take it completely seriously, and would honestly be surprised if anybody could. Oh, sure, serious stuff happens. But in everything from Schrodinger to the spirit of the Harkonnen Cannon to Luke and Yan's Paper Phallus Theatre to everybody's wackily distorted expressions to Alucard's anthropomorphic karate-chopping coffin, it's silly. It's ridiculous. It's serious too, but it's full of goofy humour and even more full of dark humour, and it loves to go ridiculously, ludicrously over the top for drama and humour both.  "Over-the-top" is the first words I would use to describe Hellsing to anybody, because it is so gloriously, gleefully over-the-top in everything it does.

In that context, Anderson's ridiculous, nonsensical, but cool Scottish accent fits in perfectly.

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#58 | Back to Top12-03-2006 09:31:50 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

I still wanna hear what "Mitch" would've sounded like - all I can picture is a 40-something Irish mobster with a 5 o'clock shadow and a gruff-sounding voice acquired from too much smoking.

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#59 | Back to Top12-03-2006 11:24:11 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

skewed_tartan wrote:

To getr somewhat back on topic...

Here's a fic parodying the idea I enjoyed. (Found on UFR whee!) Though I do tend to have a pretty vicious sense of humor.

That was a really excellent story. And in some ways, I'd watch it. Just because.


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#60 | Back to Top01-04-2011 06:13:08 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Ragnarok wrote:

Giovanna wrote:

Oh god not this emot-gonk emot-gonk emot-gonk

I've never been able to get beyond the summary for episode nine. emot-gonk

No; the funniest part is that the last few episode summaries have unchanged names and are AN EXACT SYNOPSIS of the episode complete with quotes. Lazy much? Spoiler-land, here we come!


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#61 | Back to Top01-04-2011 07:19:20 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

I think the whole thing with the names in Ursula's Kiss are pretty funny, but Goku Akio should be called Richard, so they can call him Dick... and my mind blanches at Ursula and Angie... *shudders* school-eng101


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#62 | Back to Top09-17-2011 04:49:52 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

It's hilarious to read those episode summaries.

Episode #10 Brother and Sister Ties
Possessed by this strong hostility, Nana once threw away the cat she gave him for his birthday in the past. She now gets outraged when Angie gives her brother a cat for his birthday.


Hahaha, she "threw away" the cat?! emot-rofl Who the heck wrote this!?

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#63 | Back to Top09-18-2011 03:18:46 AM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

I just can't get past the fact that they called her "Ursula." It was a pretty rare name even before The Little Mermaid came out, and now nobody would ever name their baby that because she'd be cursed to be compared to an evil, fat, hammy, purple octopus-woman.

Why would they want people to think of HER whenever Utena would show up onscreen?

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#64 | Back to Top09-18-2011 03:38:26 AM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

A couple of more episode summaries that either had me rolling my eyes or rolling on the floor in laughter. emot-rofl

Episode #4 The Garden of Light (Part I)
Mickey has brilliant talent but refused to enter a contest. Nana finds out that he has feelings for Angie and tries to pick on him.


He... refused? Nanami picked on Miki? Wha-?


Episode #5 The Garden of Light (Part II)
Mickey hasn"t seen his sister for years, but he gets shocked to find out that she"s been involved with Tommy. Tommy induces him to fight a duel with Utena and defeat her, so he can have Angie. Although Mickey has doubts about the dual system, he misunderstands that Angie"s being ruled by Utena and challenges her. Mickey dominates the duel, but Angie unconsciously cheers for Utena, which distracts him to a loss.


Lulz at Miki haven't seen Kozue for years. XD And he didn't think Anthy was being "ruled" by Utena! "Angie unconsciously cheers for Utena"... wait, what? "Unconscious"?


Episode #6 Nana is Hunted.
Having found out the truth, Nana accuses him but then a mad kangaroo appears! (Laugh)


... "Laugh"?


Episode #8 An Extraordinary Spice
In the end, the normal curry which Angie cooked, cures them, but Chuchu and Kevin eat the first curry by accident and their personalities are switched...!!


... ... No, that's not it at all.


Episode #12 Probably for Friendship
Tommy shows off Angie and himself being intimate. Utena ignores, and Angie is acting like a stranger.


"Tommy" was being intimate with "Angie" while Utena ignored them? That sounds a bit dirty... etc-wankdude


I think the episode summaries of the next arcs were written by somebody else, because they're not nearly as bad.

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#65 | Back to Top09-18-2011 11:33:04 AM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Who the frag though this would be a good idea? Utena should remain as Utena and nothing more.


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#66 | Back to Top09-21-2011 09:09:39 AM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

If you think this slaughter of the original material is bad... remember THIS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Hge38AkFg  (starts at 1:45)

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#67 | Back to Top09-22-2011 07:49:59 PM

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Re: Enoki Films dub? Sounds horrid!

Why would they want people to think of HER whenever Utena would show up onscreen?etc-saiowank

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