WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH IVY?

I do not understand this ENTIRE SEASON with the picking on Michael C. He seems like a perfectly reasonable, sweet guy! And everyone bullies him! Of course, once they get to KNOW him they're like "oh hay i actually like you a lot", such as Mondo. But jesus christ Ivy go fucking die in a fire. You are that petty to bring shit like that up after you've been off the show? Thank god for Tim Gunn being all "omfg stfu."

Emiemipoemi wrote:

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH IVY?

I don't think the forum software could support the amount of words I need to fully explain, so I'll keep it short.

She has no eye for design, period.

Yes, she can sew like a motherfucker, but the stuff that comes out is so incredibly bland when it's not confusing. I can't even call it vanilla because at least vanilla's a damn flavor. Her mad hate-on for Michael C. is entirely because she's jealous that, despite his questionable sewing skill and taste level, the judges liked his work and hated hers.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Ivy and Gtretchen were both being big bitches last ep, (and April too.  Although at least her critiques of MC's sewing at least contain some modicum of rationale).Mondo at first was being a major diva -Hiedi makes fun of everyone's stuff.  Thick skin, gotsa getsit, but it was cool to see hom overcome it.

Yeah, but Gretchen pretty much dislikes what everyone makes, even her alleged friends.

Mondo was being a bit of a bitch, but so was Heidi. I thought he was giving as good as he got...not that you're supposed to do that on a REAL job.

Also.  I hated pretty much everything on the runway.  Probably because I found Heidi's bland beige baggy active wear line ugly in the first place.  There were bits and peices of promise and not-so-bad, and I actually rather liked MC's outfits, orange pants aside.  No, it wasn't active wear.  But it was actually attractive.  :/

The activewear part killed me, and Heidi's stuff was fugly. At least Mondo's worked with the collection. As much as I like Andy's, it doesn't mesh as well as I'd like it to. And I think Michael C. would have been in the top if all or some of his pieces were done in the given fabric.

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As for this week....

I think the right person went home. I kinda liked April's stuff, but the judges had a point. Same shit, different week...not to mention two pairs of hot pants. She lost me with the hot pants.

As much as I dislike Gretchen, I think she needs to go to Fashion Week with Mondo and Andy to balance them out. Michael C. can't/won't do separates, but she can. Andy loves his black and Mondo loves color, but Gretchen is all about the muted colors and neutrals. All four of their aesthetics are so different that you could get a lot of variety from combining any three of them. April had to go because she was kind of redundant.

Now, I'm glad that Mondo's dress turned out so damned good, but I wish he'd just asked Andy how to cut sequins. Obviously he knew. (Dear God, I want something covered in sequins right now.) At least the judges can say he did something different by not using color. Seriously, I can't see him not winning the whole thing. He has to win, he just has to.

I liked Michael C's dress, and I knew he got his rhythm back when I looked at it and said, "Oh, the judges are going to hate it for being too simple and/or too literal." And then they loved it, just like all of the other stuff I thought they'd hate, but they liked.

I was fond of Andy's dress, too, despite the whole warrior woman/Chinese prostitute/dominatrix look...or perhaps because of it, who can say? I'm just happy that he's still there, to be honest.

Just wanted to give my thoughts on tonight's episode, lol.  First: Andy should've been called before Gretchen, and second: Michael's elimination was one of the most uncomfortable TV moments I've ever had to sit through.  For a second there, I thought he wasn't even going to respond to Heidi's "Auf wiedersehen" since he just looked so...I dunno.  I can only imagine how awkward it must've been for Heidi and the judges.  That being said, I do feel kind of bad for him because of how emotional he was and how close he made it (though he definitely took the word emotional to the extreme...).  But I never was a fan of his work and had expected him to go home much earlier (he didn't deserve those awful insults from Ivy though- totally uncalled for) .  Based on the 10-piece collection he made (which be seen online on the "Blogging Project Runway" blog along with the collections of the other 10 last designers on the show who showed at fashion week), I wasn't sold either so his elimination was expected to say the least.

Also, Heidi's little "This was the hardest decision in Project Runway history" remark in the preview for next week is such a joke XD  Mondo is CLEARLY lightyears ahead of Gretchen and Andy as far as showmanship, taste, and workmanship is concerned in this finale collection.  I'll be really surprised if he doesn't win.  If anything, I would say the the hardest decision would've had to have been either season 4 or 5.  Christian Siriano was the clear winner in my opinion, but Rami and Jillian's collections were both equally satisfying.  It was a matter of taste.  Same with Korto, Leanne, and Kenley.  All of their collections were really beautiful.  I can't say the same about Mondo, Andy, and Gretchen.  I feel Andy could've done an amazing couture collection (like the warrior outfit he made for the High Fashion challenge), but instead chose a collection filled with silvers and greys and kinda...boring clothing.  Gretchen's stuff is very wearable, which is great.  But her colour palette and fabric choices do nothing for me.  Mondo's (to me) is the only fashion-forward collection of the three.

Ack, sorry for rambling!  I just wanted to let it all out at once ahaha ;

I feel like all four had such a strong desire, hell, a need to win that seeing any of them go is heartbreaking.  MC, you're a sweetheart and you are talented, but I do think you were the one that deserved to go. 

Even though all of their lines disappointed me a bit.  I despise animal print, Mondo's reminded me of those polka-dot and paisley quilt purses and wallets for older women you find all over Hospital gift shops, and Andy's looked fishlike.  Shiny, form-fitting thick silver fabric?  No thanks.  And Michel C would make something pretty, and then botch up the other half of it (that gorg top had a fugly back) and made stuff that, while pretty, didn't read fashion to me.

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I'm still in love with Tim telling off Ivy, "Look.  This is heresay.  No one saw what you claimed happened, none of our personnel or MANY, MANY cameras did either.  So stfu."

And let's not forget MC's, "How does it feel to get kicked off the show for designing ugly clothes?"



Srsly Gretchen, think Runway not Street.  Collection not Line.  Remember who did that last season and it didn't work?  Because that totally misses the point of a runway show?  Huh?  Huh?  I'm all for comfortable, flattering, affordable smart clothes, but that is something you would create AFTER/IF you win, not in order TO win. 

Or go bake Mondo some cookies WHY HAS NO ONE BAKED THIS MAN COOKIES?????

[I say that feeling like MC's brothers totes bake him cookies.]

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... o_o

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

UH, SPOILERS  Did I miss anything?  As in, did people FINALLY (aside from Mondo) apologize to MC for being so shitty towards him?

They were all very very friendly for most of it.  The only thing that stood out was when Ivy surprisingly spoke badly about Gretchen right in front of her.  That was rather surprising, only because it seemed as though Ivy and Gretchen had been friends during the taping of the show; just as surprising was the fact that Michael C stood up for Gretchen after Ivy (and April kinda) spoke badly of her.  Basically, Ivy came across (yet again) as a total she-dog.  If anyone was evil this season, it was definitely Ivy, not Gretchen.

I was kinda shocked that they chose Gretchen only because I really thought Mondo had it in the bag.  When I first saw images of both his and Gretchen's collections online a few weeks ago, I didn't really like either of them.  But it's funny how your opinion changes after seeing the clothes move.  Andy's for example looked SO much prettier as the models wore it down the runway.  Gretchen's looked so much better as the girls were walking in it, and Mondo's came across as a lot more editorial (to me).  That said, I do think Mondo did kinda go a bit over the top with the prints (I still loved them though).  My mum loved Gretchen's collection a lot (except for those panty-shorts she had a few times come down the runway...) and I have to admit that I was fond of it too.  I could see where Nina+Michael were coming from, and I could also see where Heidi+Jessica were coming from.  I'm not really upset that Gretchen won though.  To be honest, I would've been fine with either of them winning since they each have so much potential and talent.  I just really thought that based on Mondo's previous work and his consistency in his 10-piece collection, he was going to win. 

I agree with you that their collections were a lot more appealing than some collections from previous seasons.  I could definitely see them beating Chloe's from season 2 and perhaps Jeffrey's from season 3.  I think my favourite finale collections are Christian Siriano's and Seth Aaron's.  They were both really edgy, very fashion-forward, and memorable.

Everything Mondo does is not blessed by angels.  Everything Gretchen does is not a fugly nightmare.

Absolutely. The judges were utterly correct in that Mondo could've benefited heavily from some serious editing. Granted, I love the fact he's willing to explore with prints, especially in ways that are both entirely unsafe and incredibly appealing. That's a rare gift. It's refreshing also that he loves to explore bright and interesting colors. But sometimes it seems like he has style diarrhea. He's not John Galliano - he doesn't have that level of influence yet to get away without editing. I felt his styling was a bit unfortunate and while many of his separates were entirely wearable, thrown together they occasionally seemed quite clumsy in presentation.

I did appreciate Gretchen's very rural/Southwestern influence. It reminds me a fashion rendering of National Geographic sometimes - her work is reminiscent of modern tribalwear. I love that she comes from a different place than most of the other designers. I also love the fact her collection isn't fundamentally "Portland" - of which has it's very own distinct hipster chic perspective. Her second piece coming down the runway, the long dress with asymmetrical sleeves and the brown/yellow/green arrow print, was extremely flattering and quite likable. However...

I didn't like her collection in total. There were a few looks I really liked, but altogether, it was just bland to me. I hate that little granny panty short trend that's so in right now, and it popped up THREE times in her collection. It was all quite wearable, yes, but it came off as just incredibly dull. It's all so quintessentially 70's hippie environmental aesthetic that it doesn't really bring a new fashion forward designer element. It's more like she was creating period pieces. Mondo's, while imperfect, was right for the runway. You're supposed to be awed, intrigued, and occasionally confused about a runway show. His was unique and, love it or hate it, you'll definitely remember it.

All this said, the real reason for my post was that I just found my new fashion orgasm, courtesy of Irina Shabayeva. She was NOT my favorite on my show, nor was her runway anything compared to Seth Aaron's or McCarroll's in my view. But...feast your eyes on what I think is one of the most gorgeous collections I've seen in a long time:

http://projectrungay.blogspot.com/2010/ … ction.html

GAWRAHGRAHAAAUUGGHHH !!!!!!!!!!

Most of my displeasure with the finale stems from the fact that all three designers disappointed me in some way.  My biggest problem was that no one understands the concept of creating a color story, and that "cohesive" does not mean make everything in the same bloody fabric or only use 2 colors. Oddly enough, this is remarkably similar to the complaints lodged against Michael C. at his last elimination.

Why I'm pissed at Gretchen:

1) Her collection was so damn current it was almost retro. I swear some of these things used to live in my mom's closet in 1991.
2) Boring ass print.
3) Using said print in damn near everything.

Why I'm pissed at Andy:

1) 2 Fucking Colors. That's it.
2) It's pretty, but this was not the time to show the Softer Side of Andy. The runway show is the time to be YOU turned up to eleven.
3) Where was the showstopping "Holyshitlemmegetmahcamera" item? That could have saved him.

Why I'm pissed at Mondo:

1) That blue shirt that forces me to stare at the model's obvious nipples.
2) Whipping out that polka dot number AGAIN for final judging when two of the regular judges clearly fucking hate it. *facepalm*
3) There is a third reason, but I forget.

Anywho, I feel like the judges tend to forget that runway shows, especially ones at Fashion Week, exist almost solely as a live, moving commercial for critics and top-level buyers. Wearability is supposed to fall back in favor of introducing concepts/techniques that will appear in the actual merchandise. That's why the ridiculous hair and heavy makeup are often used in these presentations; they're an over-the-top version of the real clothes. Couture shows are basically this times a billion.

best image ever? oh yes.