This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#1701 | Back to Top09-10-2016 05:57:33 AM

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I enjoyed Beyond so much more than the last four Trek movies. So so so much more. And, much more than recent fan film attempts, definitely.

It was a genuinely exciting movie. The callbacks were great but not obtrusive. And, the new girl didn't have to take off all her clothes to defuse a bomb or whatever.


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#1702 | Back to Top09-10-2016 08:37:39 AM

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Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

And, the new girl didn't have to take off all her clothes to defuse a bomb or whatever.

This x1000. I love that they introduced a badass female character without immediately sexually pairing her off. Her and Scotty clearly have a kinship but the nature of it is never explained or expanded on because it doesn't matter. They have a kinship and that's enough.

I haven't dared any of the fan film attempts, yet. Partly because I made the mistake of momentarily poking my nose in Trek fandom, which reminded me quickly why I've never participated in any fandom aside from Utena's. I'm convinced no one hates Star Trek more than Trekkies.

[PS. If you didn't like the Technobabble -> Sabotage thing, I'm sorry you hate fun. And also sorry you don't know anything about the Beastie Boys, who have been Trek nerds for longer than some of us have been out of diapers.]

Like I said, I'd be really sad if they bailed on these now that they actually feel like Star Trek, which JJ, not being a Star Trek fan himself, was very hesitant to do. I've seen people say the first two were like 'This is cool guys,  AND it's Star Trek!' where this one felt more much 'This is cool guys, BECAUSE it's Star Trek.'


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#1703 | Back to Top10-03-2016 12:48:12 PM

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This guy makes a very good case that the realism of Saving Private Ryan's famously horrific opening sequence is misleading and that it really just serves to make the film as a whole one of the subtlest pro-war propaganda pieces ever.



This goes into a larger point, that war hawkish political behavior is almost always accompanied by unrealistic depictions of violence/strength. Think military parades. They look strong, but if this were a real wartime scenario, they could all be taken out by a single bombing run or a couple of gunships.

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#1704 | Back to Top10-05-2016 01:43:13 PM

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I just recently saw Whiplash (2014). And HOOO BOY... I gotta say, most intense drum solo ever.
I love stories that can bring up different topics, and can discuss them without being super preachy on what its opinion of the topic is. Whiplash did that perfectly, specifically on the topic of "how far should you go to achieve your dreams/a goal?" In fact, the end (no spoilers, don't worry) is so ambiguois I'm not even sure WHAT the movie's stance on that question is. But all in all, fantastic film.


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#1705 | Back to Top10-05-2016 05:34:01 PM

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sailor-anthy wrote:

I just recently saw Whiplash (2014). And HOOO BOY... I gotta say, most intense drum solo ever.

That is literally the most intense film I've ever watched in my life.


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#1706 | Back to Top10-06-2016 03:44:20 AM

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Watched Kiki's Delivery Service for the 2nd time. It's not one of my Ghibli favorites, but it's lovely to watch, relaxing, with a nice message.


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#1707 | Back to Top11-19-2016 01:50:15 PM

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Last year's Cinderella still has the ability to make me blush and sigh a little too much considering I'm just a few years from forty.


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#1708 | Back to Top11-20-2016 01:54:25 PM

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I'm super excited for the live action Beauty and the Beast movie in twenty-seventeen! Belle was my favorite Disney princess because she loved to read like me and was a nonconformist. I've heard it's going to be a musical like the original.

Here's a link to the new trailer for those who haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/OvW_L8sTu5E


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#1709 | Back to Top11-20-2016 01:57:44 PM

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Bill Condon is amazing! And, everyone else working on Beauty and the Beast seem to really be throwing themselves into it. I'm thrilled about it.


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#1710 | Back to Top11-20-2016 02:38:47 PM

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Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

Bill Condon is amazing! And, everyone else working on Beauty and the Beast seem to really be throwing themselves into it. I'm thrilled about it.

Eh? Eh? emot-dance And as excited as I am about Emma Watson playing Belle I think Josh Gad as Lefou is also a perfect casting choice.


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#1711 | Back to Top11-21-2016 11:53:58 AM

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I'm not a fan of live-acton Disney remakes in general so maybe I'm biased but I thought the CGI characters in Beaty and the Beast look freaking creepy, uncanny valley level shit.

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#1712 | Back to Top11-21-2016 05:01:09 PM

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The designs of the object-characters is creepy, but well, they're people cursed into object-form. They, and the castle, could probably stand to seem creepy at first, since Belle's meant to be afraid, natch, when she first comes.


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#1713 | Back to Top11-24-2016 04:29:28 PM

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“Yeah,"  Emma Watson told EW, “we made Belle an inventor."

That reinvigorates my interest in the movie.

Hopefully she pays for materials and then complains about her dinky little town, as opposed to cartoon Belle who borrows books from the bookstore, then complains they don't stock enough. emot-rolleyes


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#1714 | Back to Top11-30-2016 12:43:06 PM

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Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

“Yeah,"  Emma Watson told EW, “we made Belle an inventor."

That reinvigorates my interest in the movie.

emot-frown I hope to high heaven she's still a bookworm. That's pretty much why I idolized Belle as a child.


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#1715 | Back to Top12-10-2016 06:13:06 PM

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I've been doing Japanese horror (and horror-comedy, horror-adventure, etc) with a friend, recently, one movie every few days, usually alternating whether we do Chinese or English subtitles (or Chinese or English dub), so one of us has to constantly catch the other up. The latest was Vampire Girl vs Frankenstein Girl, which was a rewatch for me, but I'd completely forgotten the twist ending, so it surprised us both. I'll have to find Arcana in English, because even explained, I'm not sure I got it, but it was fun as a little investigative mystery thing. Neither of us had seen Ringu in forever, so it was nice to know it holds up fine.


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#1716 | Back to Top12-11-2016 08:59:55 AM

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I've just run into these small gems. There is an ongoing series of short films that are modern retelling of old Polish legends (very loose; oftentimes merely alluding to the core). Not much in terms of stories, really, but visually and especially musically they are stunning. Soundtrack consists of new arrangements of Polish hits (some of my all time favorites got in!).
You can pick English subs in settings.
Recommended.

(Like, did you know there is an old tale of a Polish guy who ended up on the Moon ages ago? Sorry, Armstrong.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdYz8cnOW4&t=390s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKbuFYd468w&t=320s

There's more, if you like these.

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#1717 | Back to Top01-03-2017 11:44:57 AM

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I watched Storks - I'd heard it was pretty good as kids films go, so I gave it a watch. It was surprisingly funny, it made me laugh pretty hard at some points. I have a few nitpicks about the movie, mostly because I liked it enough to care. XD

If Storks have stopped delivering babies, where have people been getting them from all this time? If the awkward conversation in the car is any indication, natural birth? It just doesn't make sense. They have supposedly been delivering babies since Pharaonic times, they just one day stopped and everyone was ok with that? It annoyed me because they could have made a good joke instead of leaving it hanging.

The baby could have been given a personality! It was basically just a pair of big shiny eyes to make audiences go awwww. Even something generic or one-sided like 'mischievous' or 'funny' would have worked.

There's a point in the movie when the girl's 'maternal instincts' kick in and it's a fairly funny visual gag; I think it would have been kinda funny if the stork had later had a similar one (like one about stork instincts or dad instincts).


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#1718 | Back to Top01-17-2017 06:43:14 AM

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Just watched nosferatu and it was kind of weird, but overall an incredibly beautiful piece of cinema. Recommend to any horror fan:devil:


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#1719 | Back to Top01-21-2017 03:04:48 PM

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Also I know its weird to write another comment right after I did another one but WATCH la la land. Probably one of my favorite films of all time and is deserving of any praise from anyone. If you like musicals and bitter sweet romances with an incredible message that in no way you can predict with one of the saddest and most perfect endings I have seen since... utena. So you know this is the real deal. 10/10


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#1720 | Back to Top01-24-2017 06:15:18 PM

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Just watched Rokugatsu no hebi.
Sad porn. Which probably doesn't sound like a great match but it is quite moving, really. Interesting, empathetic retelling of the story about the first sin in Eden.

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#1721 | Back to Top01-25-2017 06:40:38 PM

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Malna I found a movie I think is the same movie. Is this it?
https://youtu.be/4VMLzNjdUA0


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#1722 | Back to Top01-25-2017 06:59:21 PM

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Yes, that's it but from what I see just after a small glimpse, these are some botched up subtitles. I'd recommend searching for a version with different subtitles if you care to watch the movie. This translation is so bad, you would be missing a whole lot.


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#1723 | Back to Top02-25-2017 03:31:44 PM

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The Ghostbusters thread got me thinking, as I'm watching Bride of the Monster just now, about how much of a goddammed full-on genius Ed Wood was. Now, Ed Wood was not a polymath, certainly; he wasn't good at everything or even nearly just a lot of things. But, he had a genius. Look at his 50s films (as director or writer), particularly, and there are pleas for tolerance and acceptance of transvestites and transsexuals, open criticism of the military-industrial empire-minded American ethos, crooked police, women in actual agendas and agency...

Awkward editing, low budget fx, and unhelpful background music can't take away how brazen and smart that is, especially deep in blacklisting and government investigation 1950s Hollywood.


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#1724 | Back to Top02-25-2017 05:19:31 PM

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I'm a huge fan of Tran Anh Hung's work. I especially love The Scent of The Green Papaya, if a bit cheesy, the cinematography and mise en scene are beautiful. Just take a look of this screenshot:
http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsowrbUV1H1qitt26o1_400.png
Hung writes the female characters very well; as pained sometimes cruel but ultimately sympathetic. You could probably do a feminist analysis of his films.

Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

The Ghostbusters thread got me thinking, as I'm watching Bride of the Monster just now, about how much of a goddammed full-on genius Ed Wood was. Now, Ed Wood was not a polymath, certainly; he wasn't good at everything or even nearly just a lot of things. But, he had a genius. Look at his 50s films (as director or writer), particularly, and there are pleas for tolerance and acceptance of transvestites and transsexuals, open criticism of the military-industrial empire-minded American ethos, crooked police, women in actual agendas and agency...

Awkward editing, low budget fx, and unhelpful background music can't take away how brazen and smart that is, especially deep in blacklisting and government investigation 1950s Hollywood.

Word of advice, don't refer to Transgender people as "Transvestites" or "Transexuals." Those are generally considered as very harmful slurs.


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#1725 | Back to Top02-25-2017 06:07:27 PM

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SaigonAlice wrote:

Word of advice, don't refer to Transgender people as "Transvestites" or "Transexuals." Those are generally considered as very harmful slurs.

I'm going to take some time for this, because I think it needs addressing.

Ed Wood was a transvestite. He was a man who felt most comfortable in what are traditionally considered women's clothing. His first major production was a pseudo-documentary on transvestism and on mtf transitioning of transsexuals.

As someone who is intersex who wears a lot of "women's" clothes, and has many close acquaintances who are transsexual or transvestites, I'm not going to let anyone take the blanket term, transgender, solely for their own. Period.

Transgender is an umbrella term, under which the categories intersex, transsexual, and transvestite fall. Should they be grouped together? Maybe, maybe not. Clinically, they are increasingly being distanced, and that makes sense. Sociologically... who knows. However, transsexuals, being people whose gender does not conform to societal expectations of their sexual characteristics, do not have sole claim to transgender, nor can they erase other transgender categories for their own gain.

So, when I'm discussing a transvestite filmmaker and novelist, whose work often dealt openly with transvestites and transsexuals, I'm going to do him the respect of referring to those as they are and not erase his identity or existence, and the existence and identities of his subjects.


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