Persephone wrote:

OH GOD! You guys are gonna hate me but
WORST:
Utena
(the reason being is that Kuniko Ikuhara did not really follow true to the manga and deviated a bit too much from the storyline, granted the show was fucking awesome and I love them both equally, but you have to admit, the manga was slightly different)

...Ironically enough, this is why I love Utena.

(the manga makes me cry, but that's just what I think )

allegoriest wrote:

Persephone wrote:

OH GOD! You guys are gonna hate me but
WORST:
Utena
(the reason being is that Kuniko Ikuhara did not really follow true to the manga and deviated a bit too much from the storyline, granted the show was fucking awesome and I love them both equally, but you have to admit, the manga was slightly different)

...Ironically enough, this is why I love Utena.

(the manga makes me cry, but that's just what I think )

In the manga, the characters are all much, much more sympathetic... And, my favorite part is where they explain Utena's life before coming to Ohtori. Somewhat connects to reality, in a way.

I don't think the manga is as challenging to taboos or as surreal as the anime.  In fact, I'd go as far as saying that if Utena were entirely the manga, it would never have been as successful because the manga is a fairly trite piece of shoujo work.  The anime is where the real revolution, if you will, takes place.

Plus, manga-Juri sucks. :}

Welp, tohubohu and Yasha have pretty much nailed my thoughts exactly on manga vs anime Utena.

Blade wrote:

There are some truly awful anime-based video games. I know, I've suffered through a lot of them. The absolute worst to my knowledge are DBZ: Ultimate Battle 22 and the Saber Marionette J: Battle Sabers games, both of which approach being completely unplayable.

And then, there's video game-based anime. Those tend to go wrong in a big way. Just a week or so ago, I bought the Tales of Phantasia OAVs on DVD, big fan of the game that I am. My expectations weren't too high, but I still thought the OAVs were a complete shambles.

It's not all bad, though. I really enjoyed the Zone of Enders anime, for one (both the OAV and the TV series).

Some games could make for great anime series. I'd really like to see some anime based on the Guilty Gear games. Given enough episodes to flesh out the world and the characters from the games, it could be completely brilliant.
And I wish they made more Fire Emblem OAVs, but that's probably just me.

I didn't like the transfer from manga to anime for D.N.Angel.

Ignoring all the other things to screw him up, they made my favorite character leave for eight episodes in episode four. As if that weren't enough, when he finally came back, he got one episode before they replaced him with some annoying American girl. I actually like that character, but she's just not the same as my favorite. (We didn't even get to see him cross dress. )

They only used a few of the artworks from the manga, and added new ones that were just plain awful. The episode "The Garden of Vows," was supposed to be dramatic, but I was too busy laughing at how cheesy the plot was to feel sad.

But of course everyone loves it because of all the pretty boys, which the original creator completely ripped off from Sukisho.

I still want to get the Utena manga for two reasons, one, I wanna read it and decide for myself if it is good bad or indifferent and two, I want to be able to scan pictures from it and edit the line art and maybe even send it to Gio-tan if she wants them.

A Day Without Me wrote:

Y'know, D.N.Angel was something I never read the manga for, but I was disappointed in the anime - I felt like it morphed into a harem anime by the time that American girl showed up, and I just don't like harem animes for the most part (I'm a big Tenchi fan, admittedly... but that might be the only harem I like). I might go check out the manga now, though.

I don't like harem animes either, mostly because all of the boys that lead the harems always annoy me due to their sheer stupidity. (One of them literally had brain cancer. What the hell?) My sister says that I should just annoy the boys, because it's really about the girls, but it still doesn't help much. The major flaw with the D.N.Angel anime is that all the girls are stupid too.

But I would recommend the manga. I'm actually rereading it at the moment.

Worst: Power. Puff. Girls. Z.

Oh my God.

How could they in their right minds take one of the cutest, funniest, most amusing cartoons ever created, turn it into an anime and completey butcher the idea of the entire series? They turned a unique and quirky series into magical girl shoujo drivel. Absolute run of the mill shoujo. I cringe to think of it. What ever happened to the snappy dialogue and fun bad guys? Interesting characters? Nothing!

And what is up with Buttercup's character desgin???


Yeah...my poor Puffie-tans.

Bubbles and Blossom are cute. But that's about it.

The thing that really gets to me is the amount of people who will say 'OMG TIS GREAT' just because its anime.

Hina the Prince wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

And what is up with Buttercup's character desgin???

STFU, dyked-up Buttercup is the best thing about this anime. D<

I think so, too. I love how she now has a hammer.

Razara wrote:

A Day Without Me wrote:

Y'know, D.N.Angel was something I never read the manga for, but I was disappointed in the anime - I felt like it morphed into a harem anime by the time that American girl showed up, and I just don't like harem animes for the most part (I'm a big Tenchi fan, admittedly... but that might be the only harem I like). I might go check out the manga now, though.

I don't like harem animes either, mostly because all of the boys that lead the harems always annoy me due to their sheer stupidity. (One of them literally had brain cancer. What the hell?) My sister says that I should just annoy the boys, because it's really about the girls, but it still doesn't help much. The major flaw with the D.N.Angel anime is that all the girls are stupid too.

But I would recommend the manga. I'm actually rereading it at the moment.

Seconded. The manga is great. The anime is horrid, IMO.

Hiraku wrote:

allegoriest wrote:

Persephone wrote:

OH GOD! You guys are gonna hate me but
WORST:
Utena
(the reason being is that Kuniko Ikuhara did not really follow true to the manga and deviated a bit too much from the storyline, granted the show was fucking awesome and I love them both equally, but you have to admit, the manga was slightly different)

...Ironically enough, this is why I love Utena.

(the manga makes me cry, but that's just what I think )

In the manga, the characters are all much, much more sympathetic... And, my favorite part is where they explain Utena's life before coming to Ohtori. Somewhat connects to reality, in a way.

But that's the whole point. It's Ohtori. The characters aren't meant to be sympathetic - most of them are just plain pathetic. And there's no connection to reality because, again, it's Ohtori. It takes over people's lives and bends them completely.

The manga, while amusing, turned the characters into talking cardboard [OH MY GOD ANTHY WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU], simplified the plot and the worst of all - CUT OFF THE LESBIANS! Well, maybe that's not the worst part. But still. Juri has the hots for Touga? Ew. And did I mention Anthy received the most horrid treatment possible?

Last edited by Hina the Prince (03-04-2007 01:12:47 AM)

A Day Without Me wrote:

My only wish is that all spin-offs could be as good as the Tenchi Muyo! spin-offs over the years have been.

I think my favorite spin-off right now is Getsumen to Heiki Miina, but I dunno if I get to count that because I wasn't really into Densha Otoko itself ;

IMO not all of the Tenchi spinoffs were winners. Some ,like Universe (kinda boring) and in Tokyo (I's rather watch grass grow) sucked.

YamPuff wrote:

Worst: Power. Puff. Girls. Z.

Oh my God.

How could they in their right minds take one of the cutest, funniest, most amusing cartoons ever created, turn it into an anime and completey butcher the idea of the entire series? They turned a unique and quirky series into magical girl shoujo drivel. Absolute run of the mill shoujo. I cringe to think of it. What ever happened to the snappy dialogue and fun bad guys? Interesting characters? Nothing!

And what is up with Buttercup's character desgin???


Yeah...my poor Puffie-tans.

I haven't seen the anime but to me this PPg dojinshi is awesome

http://ppg.snafu-comics.com/