This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#51 | Back to Top06-01-2015 04:17:20 PM

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Re: Free!

In Free! girls are entirely superfluous. D:<
But actually I like Momotaru x Gou, if only because he is so damn enthusiastic about it.

Generally I find that people can and do ship Makoto with just about anyone. He's THAT easy-going. emot-tongue


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#52 | Back to Top06-01-2015 04:56:19 PM

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The anime did away entirely with Aki, a somewhat important female character from the light novels. Not important enough to have description at all but her great interest in everything Haruka related and her conversations with Makoto about what 'free' means to Haruka are pretty important points of development. In another occasion she also talks to Rin about why she too wants Haruka to join the relay race since she sees Haruka as someone people all rely on but who does not rely on others.

Unlike Gou, Aki is a swimmer and enters the relay in the 'free' category so she is interested in finding out exactly what it is that allows Haruka to be so fast so that too can become faster. Interestingly enough, the whole thing with the flower beds for graduation was Aki's idea.

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#53 | Back to Top06-01-2015 05:19:04 PM

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Re: Free!

Nocturnalux wrote:

The anime did away entirely with Aki, a somewhat important female character from the light novels. Not important enough to have description at all but her great interest in everything Haruka related and her conversations with Makoto about what 'free' means to Haruka are pretty important points of development. In another occasion she also talks to Rin about why she too wants Haruka to join the relay race since she sees Haruka as someone people all rely on but who does not rely on others.

Unlike Gou, Aki is a swimmer and enters the relay in the 'free' category so she is interested in finding out exactly what it is that allows Haruka to be so fast so that too can become faster. Interestingly enough, the whole thing with the flower beds for graduation was Aki's idea.

Aw that's really cute! It's a shame they didn't include her. As much as I like to joke, it is nice having more girls around. etc-love


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#54 | Back to Top06-01-2015 05:47:19 PM

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I'm sure Aki will appear in the movie. I'm curious to see just what they do with her appearance, I keep imagining her with glasses and pigtails for some reason. Rin himself does not get a lot of description but there are the illustrations to guide us while Aki remains a mystery.

Makoto calls her 'Zaki-chan', shortening her family name 'Yazaki'. He's the only one who does that, too.

And on the subject of having pet names, shortly after the relay team gets formed Rin decides that the boys must address him as 'leader'. The Engrish confuses Nagisa who just figures he'll go for 'Rin Rin' instead much to Rin's dismay. It was Rin's idea that they use given names to build a sense of belonging to a team, little did he expect Nagisa to 'Rin Rin' him and '-chan' everyone. Haruka was drying his hair the first time Nagisa 'Haru-chan's' him, it causes him to drop the towel.

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#55 | Back to Top06-01-2015 08:36:46 PM

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Re: Free!

Nocturnalux wrote:

I'm sure Aki will appear in the movie. I'm curious to see just what they do with her appearance, I keep imagining her with glasses and pigtails for some reason. Rin himself does not get a lot of description but there are the illustrations to guide us while Aki remains a mystery.

This is probably why I don't read the light novels, they are just so basically and thinly written, less stylistic and descriptive than children's books, that they were literally painful for me to attempt to read.  I blame it on the translation, though.  Adapting writing and keeping the same feel and depth of prose is difficult, in anime you at least have the character's inflections, body language and the mood created by the visuals to help with looser and more entertaining adaptations that stick to the heart of the original, but pure written word... not so much. 

YamPuff wrote:

In Free! girls are entirely superfluous. D:<
But actually I like Momotaru x Gou, if only because he is so damn enthusiastic about it.

There is also something similar in his love for the big, strong beetles and her admiration for muscly men.  I also just love how it would be SO EASY to get her attention, just show her some skin and flex, and yet it never seems to occur to him. Instead he tries TALKING TO HER and ATTEMPTING TO SHARE HIS INTERESTS like a big fucking dorky and (even if unintentionally, at least naturally) respectful sweetheart and man, I dig that.

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#56 | Back to Top06-01-2015 08:51:46 PM

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Re: Free!

I'm reading the novels in the original so I have no idea of what the translation is like but since it is made by amateurs it might be less than stellar.

I won't say the novels are all that thinly written but they are more focused on inner dialogue than anything else. You get a lot about what each character is thinking which is often very interesting, especially for those characters who are less than expansive like Haruka. It also contrasts the different ways each boy responds to his environment.

As for description, there is a stunning rendering of Iwatobi that really brings the village to life while at the same time making it seem rather frightening and perhaps even claustrophic. There is a lack of physical description, Makoto is the one who has more of this, Haruka has a little along with Nagisa, Rin has virtually none. This is probably because the reader is already supposed to know how each character looks like.

As for Aki, while we have no idea what she looks like we do have an idea of her personality. Still, I would have added some description just so we could visualize her and/or add an illustration in which she appears. Granted, she is a secondary character but it is still a bit odd. Apart from her smile being compared to a sunflower (which immediately made me think of Sumika from YKA, that's probably why I imagine her with glasses) we are a bit left in the dark.

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#57 | Back to Top06-02-2015 04:28:55 AM

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http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/tumblr_np7rt2SOys1suq83fo3_540_zps4qxbavsu.jpg~original

Not sure if this is legit or not but I am accepting it as canon. etc-love

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

But actually I like Momotaru x Gou, if only because he is so damn enthusiastic about it.

There is also something similar in his love for the big, strong beetles and her admiration for muscly men.  I also just love how it would be SO EASY to get her attention, just show her some skin and flex, and yet it never seems to occur to him. Instead he tries TALKING TO HER and ATTEMPTING TO SHARE HIS INTERESTS like a big fucking dorky and (even if unintentionally, at least naturally) respectful sweetheart and man, I dig that.

I never thought of it in quite those terms. How adorable!
I officially ship them. emot-biggrin

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#58 | Back to Top06-02-2015 08:23:28 AM

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Re: Free!

Ahh July can't get here fast enough. I really want to see what the Rin and Haru mook will be about! I wonder if it will be a continuation of the story in the Makoto and Haru one, since he found out Haru was a merman and then nothing came of it lol.  I'm so curious and waiting is suffering.

For Gou, I'm a fan of her with Sousuke. It's really sweet how they stayed in contact even when Rin isn't around, and the way her face lit up when she saw him in episode 2 or 3 of ES was pretty adorable. Then the OVA when he gave her his jacket. etc-love For people who like Momo x Gou, did you read the Momo and Nitori mook? It ended up being more Momo/Gou than anything, haha. (He wanted Nitori to steal something from her so he could be the big hero and stop him and she would fall in love with him. It was hilarious. The Momo and Nitori one was surprisingly my favorite so far.)

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#59 | Back to Top06-02-2015 11:13:38 AM

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Re: Free!

Can we just ship everyone with everyone?

Btw, whacha guys think of Nagisa/Rei? I think they're my favorite ship in Free! thus far, the cuties etc-love

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#60 | Back to Top06-02-2015 11:43:56 AM

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Re: Free!

Snow wrote:

Can we just ship everyone with everyone?

Btw, whacha guys think of Nagisa/Rei? I think they're my favorite ship in Free! thus far, the cuties etc-love

I see a little subtext between the two. I'm only on episode seven.  Being a big fujoshi I'd be happy to see any two shirtless guys kissing. If I had to choose a favorite shonen-ai couple at this point it'd be Haru/Makoto.

Also, I think I'm starting to fall for Rin. emot-redface At first I was attracted to the character's looks but then I found out his reason for wanting to beat Haru and realized he wasn't just a giant angry jerk. Poor baby. etc-love

(Man, why do I always fall for the hotheaded bishonen? I think I have an unhealthy attraction to dangerous men.)


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#61 | Back to Top06-02-2015 01:42:02 PM

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Re: Free!

I love Rei/Nagisa. I can imagine Nagisa talking Rei into doing virtually anything and making sure he took pictures and filmed it for future reference.

"Rei-chan, you know how you used to pole vault?"
"Yes...?"
"It's time for learn how to pole dance next!"
"Why?!"
"Because it'd be so beautiful. Just imagine it, Rei-chan!"
"Well...I guess you have a point,"
"All swimmers do it, too! It helps with the aerodynamics."
"Is that so? Sign me in, Nagisa-kun!"
"Yatta!" *prepares camera*

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#62 | Back to Top06-02-2015 03:21:54 PM

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Re: Free!

Nocturnalux wrote:

I love Rei/Nagisa. I can imagine Nagisa talking Rei into doing virtually anything and making sure he took pictures and filmed it for future reference.

"Rei-chan, you know how you used to pole vault?"
"Yes...?"
"It's time for learn how to pole dance next!"
"Why?!"
"Because it'd be so beautiful. Just imagine it, Rei-chan!"
"Well...I guess you have a point,"
"All swimmers do it, too! It helps with the aerodynamics."
"Is that so? Sign me in, Nagisa-kun!"
"Yatta!" *prepares camera*

Lol!

I adore Nagisa and Rei but my headcanon is the two as very close, lifelong friends that everyone thinks are gay for each other but are totally not and completely oblivious to what people think of them.

Doujins tend to portray Nagisa as this total manslut/whore but he's practically the only character I don't ship with anyone romantically.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/tumblr_npba5eepq31qgz09po5_1280_zpsemjkkckj.jpg~original

Oh my goodness, look how each boy has their little animal symbol. :3 Except Rin for some reason unless I just can't spot it. Rei is too precious for words. I'm wondering if that's how his parents dress him or if he was fussy as a boy in how he dressed. XD


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#63 | Back to Top06-02-2015 03:54:55 PM

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Re: Free!

I always thought otaku who got body pillows were kind of pathetic until I realized how much I want these.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zyvh92.jpg

Squee! My new BL OTP in pillow form!


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#64 | Back to Top06-02-2015 04:18:09 PM

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Re: Free!

YamPuff wrote:

Nocturnalux wrote:

I love Rei/Nagisa. I can imagine Nagisa talking Rei into doing virtually anything and making sure he took pictures and filmed it for future reference.

"Rei-chan, you know how you used to pole vault?"
"Yes...?"
"It's time for learn how to pole dance next!"
"Why?!"
"Because it'd be so beautiful. Just imagine it, Rei-chan!"
"Well...I guess you have a point,"
"All swimmers do it, too! It helps with the aerodynamics."
"Is that so? Sign me in, Nagisa-kun!"
"Yatta!" *prepares camera*

Lol!

I adore Nagisa and Rei but my headcanon is the two as very close, lifelong friends that everyone thinks are gay for each other but are totally not and completely oblivious to what people think of them.

Doujins tend to portray Nagisa as this total manslut/whore but he's practically the only character I don't ship with anyone romantically.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/ … g~original

Oh my goodness, look how each boy has their little animal symbol. :3 Except Rin for some reason unless I just can't spot it. Rei is too precious for words. I'm wondering if that's how his parents dress him or if he was fussy as a boy in how he dressed. XD

Aw, that really is adorable. It's a bit of shame we never got to see Rei as a kid in canon.
I can see Rei being oblivious of people seeing him as gay but I bet Nagisa would be different. He's more the type to sell compromising photos of himself and Rei, or of any other of the boys, for funds. 

I see Kisume as much more of a manslut than Nagisa. He really does all he can to get in the way of Haruka and Makoto. Add to that the fact he seems to really enjoy teasing Haruka by being weirdly over friendly and a name that really sounds like a pun and you're all set.

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#65 | Back to Top06-02-2015 04:55:19 PM

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Re: Free!

In that pic:

Rei - APH Austria
Nagisa - Von Trapp
Makoto - Preppy British kid
Rin- 'first I'm gonna chill with my friends, then I'm gonna make you swim with the fishies'
Haruka- Japanese salaryman who did not sign up for this

Jk, that's adorable emot-dance I want Makoto's socks...

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#66 | Back to Top06-03-2015 01:03:51 PM

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Re: Free!

FREE! ILLUSTRATION WORKS VOL.2, TRACK 08

Nagisa: I dreamed about Rei-chan-sheeps.
Rei: Rei-chan-sheeps?
Nagisa: You had become a sheep,  and so I counted the Rei-chans leaping in the pool, but then it got filled with Rei-chans!
Rei: What kind of dream is that?
Nagisa: And you were kinda angry too, but since you were a sheep, it didn’t feel like you were angry at all…
Rei: (sighs)
Nagisa: You were all soft and fluffy, after all! And so I ended up leaning in your fluffiness and falling asleep, and it felt so nice…

Riri-kins wrote:

I always thought otaku who got body pillows were kind of pathetic until I realized how much I want these.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zyvh92.jpg

Squee! My new BL OTP in pillow form!

That's really cute/hot but a strange feeling for me seeing Haru and Mako the same size as each other. XD

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#67 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:04:20 PM

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Re: Free!

That dream, oh dearie.

In one of drama CDs Rei has a really weird dream in which Nagisa is trying to get him to join Samezuka's training program which includes turning people in kappas, Mikoshiba senior having already become one and being most enthusiastic about it. It's really hilarious as Rei goes from 'Samezuka's training regime must be great!' to 'whfhfhf, what the!!'.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11282809_1588593681409087_1297934618_n.jpg

More adorable character goods and the one and only Butterfly Rei!

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#68 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:17:08 PM

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Re: Free!

Great minds thinks alike!
I was just coming here to post this:

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#69 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:31:36 PM

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I just realized that Nagisa's outfit makes him look a hell lot like Himari from Penguindrum.
And Makoto's orca costume looks more like a panda than anything else...while Rin looks like he's being eaten by a shark instead of *being* one.

As ever Rei is posing fabulously. Work!

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#70 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:37:18 PM

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Re: Free!

Those are so cute! Free makes so many nice figures, and I have way too many already...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCP2lDnVIAA6-BV.jpg:large
(Sorry for the blurry pic!)

I'm getting the Rin scale figure soon too.

Please stop making such nice stuff Kyoani... emot-gonk

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#71 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:41:10 PM

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Oh wow, that's a seriously cool RinHaru collection! I envy you know. emot-keke

I need to take a picture of my whole Free! doujin collection along with the novels and the two figures I have.

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#72 | Back to Top06-05-2015 05:57:21 PM

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Re: Free!

Thanks!  emot-keke I'm running out of room there. XD

Ahh, you should! I really want to see your doujinshi collection!


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#73 | Back to Top06-06-2015 08:25:51 AM

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Such a cute Haru x Rin collection! emot-biggrin Would love to see other collections! Take pics!

Now, I'm supposed to be writing a paper on Leadership Theory history for college so of course I ended up on Tumblr, yaoi-blogging as per usual. Found this:

Okay guys, so you know how Rin has a thing about the pant sleeve rolled up with the ankle bracket exposed?

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/tumblr_inline_n96gqrbM5B1rc71sq_zpsgxku07ai.png~original
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/tumblr_inline_n96gqnqK141rc71sq_zpscpr3lhci.png~original

In the gay men’s club scene (certainly in Australia and America), guys use different attributes (like bracelets) to indicate their preferred ‘position’. Like back in the 70’s when men would use one pierced ear to indicate homosexuality— guys now use nail polish on one hand, but also ankle and wrist bracelets to indicate their sexuality and their preferred position.

As opposed to just having a bracelet, if you roll your sleeve up to expose it it shows that you want other men to notice it, and thus you are wearing it deliberately.

Generally — Right is Bottom, Left is Top.

So Rin Really does prefer the bottom. (at least with Sousuke in the second pic, I guess when he clubbin’ he wants to be the top)

http://princessmatsuoka.tumblr.com/post … hing-about

As always, I take everything I read on Tumblr with a grain of salt, but it made me lol nonetheless. Openly gay Rin ftw.

I just realized that Nagisa's outfit makes him look a hell lot like Himari from Penguindrum.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/YamPuff/Untitled_zpslx8tfvdq.jpg~original
Uncanny! emot-tongue


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#74 | Back to Top06-06-2015 12:16:17 PM

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Re: Free!

So here's my entire collection of Free! stuff, minus the figures that I didn't manage to find:

http://i61.tinypic.com/a3jk1l.jpg

It includes the novels, an Eternal Summer guidebook and the doujin that are easier to see here:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2qa2x36.jpg

From left to right, top to bottom the titles are:
Souten no Southern Cross
Kotoshi mo Maid no mama deite
Mirai e no Time Machine
Rin to Tomodachi de iru tame no 4tsu yakusoku

And the Arabian Nights ones:

http://i59.tinypic.com/4sgpvk.jpg

Kimi no Hitomi ha sapphire no Houseki
Arabian Love Dream (vl1)
Magical Temptation
Paradise Regained (vl1)

I've heard about the whole 'gay signs' before, I have no idea whether there is any truth to it but partially because of that I was mistaken for a boy back in 6th grade (my hair was boy-short and I only had one pierced earring) and a bunch of religious girls fell in love with me...but that's getting way off topic.

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#75 | Back to Top06-07-2015 04:27:57 AM

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Re: Free!

Now it's my turn to be jealous of you. *A* etc-love  So many nice doujinshi, that's a really good collection! *grabby hands*  emot-wink  I especially like the maid one, maid Rin is my weakness.


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