Ivy-chan wrote:

- Wangsting out Touga. When Touga angsts, he angst fashionably and somewhat romantically ina  darkened room, listening to loud, classical music and refusing to go to school. Touga does not cry himself to sleep to Linkin Park. He doesn't decide to share his problems by whining pathetically to Saionji. AND HE DOES NOT COMMIT SUICIDE WITH A DAGGER IN THE MEN'S RESTROOM.

This one. Mostly because the idea of Touga whining pathetically to Saionji warps my fragile little mind in ways I thought only movie Akio could.

(LOL LINKIN PARK)

This Saionji/Juri thing confuses me. So they're both hardasses...that makes them a couple? Also Saionji doesn't have a vagina?

Romanticide wrote:

No he wouldn't, if Touga killed himself it would be in Women restroom!!!!

No way, Touga would never kill himself. He can't cockwave suicide.

That said, if he did kill himself, it would be a gun or pills or something similarly painless. Sharp objects...those you need to keep away from Saionji.

Ger wrote:

"After revolution" fanfiction where everyone magically gets transported to an American high school.

Oh wait, that's 99% of fanfiction in every fandom.

I thought that 99% was skewing the entire series to make way for the hot new American exchange student. Or ski trips in different countries. Where Juri unexplicably starts channeling Ryouga Hibiki.

Oh, and the whole Juri/Saionji thing. Even if he did have a vagina, she still wouldn't have anything to do with him.

Fics where Juri and Shiori get together, but neither of them have changed appreciably.

Fics where Juri and Shiori commit lovers' suicide.

Fics where Anthy is the be-all and end-all evil behind everything.

ShatteredMirror wrote:

I thought that 99% was skewing the entire series to make way for the hot new American exchange student. Or ski trips in different countries. Where Juri unexplicably starts channeling Ryouga Hibiki.

You can tell that those sorts of stories are written by ‘Mary Sue’ authors who choose SKU as their setting because they think its pretty and they want to appear to be deep individuals because of the nature of the series.

I don't think that Shiori is a good person, but I don't think that she is as bad as most fanfiction writers seem to think she is. For a while, as far as I knew, this was how everyone viewed Shiori. The reason why I started analyzing her was because of these views on her, since I felt that a character who is nothing but pure evil was too unrealistic for an anime like Utena.

I like to write my own fanfictions, rather than reading them, because she's usually portrayed as nothing but evil. Yes, she is cruel, but I don't think that she would make a sport out of hurting Juri, as she does in many fanfictions. She's usually a slut, too... Sleeping with half the school, and then forming some sort of sadistic plan to hurt Juri when she breaks up with her because of it. I can't stand when Shiori does things like that, all so they can portray Juri as the helpless victim who is still trying to break free from the thorns that constrain her, and what not. (I don't understand... How can Shiori be both the thorns and the parasite in that metaphor? And yet people hear the title and think, "Thorns? Death? It must be Shiori!")

In one of the worst case scenarios, I thought that the author was writing it just for the plot, and that she knew that how Shiori was acting wasn't it character. But at the end of the fanfiction the author said that she thought what Shiori was doing was in character, and asked if everyone hated her now because of it. ("Look! I added an 'h' to Shiori's name! Shihori. Get it? Aren't I witty?") And I can only hope the author of another fanfiction wasn't serious when she made Shiori was a slut, a drug addict, an alcoholic, and a psychopath in general...

I'm sorry for the rant. It's not as though Shiori is the only character who is portrayed this way, either. I recall a fanfiction where Akio was afraid of reindeer, and was upset because he couldn't "sparkle like the other bishounen." I've also seen Ruka portrayed in the same manor as Shiori as well... I'm sure there are fanfictions like that with every character, so I don't have any right to complain.

I haven't gotten a chance to read a lot of Utena fic yet (Sadly. I whimper. ;_;) and I avoid ff.net at all costs, but I agree about the 2-D villian thing. Especially fics where it's obvious the author is biased and doesn't like a particular character. Akio, for example. He may be a manipulitive jerk, but he has power over people, and all the other characters aren't just going to decide he sucks.

Hinotori wrote:

(By the way, I was talking about Juri raping Shiori, not the other way around.)

I'm curious.  You got a link to one of these?

I read a one ages ago and it was -really- well done. It was this interesting spur-of-passion kind of thing. I'll probably be spending the rest of my night digging it back up, but I think I read it in the days of FF.net before the NC17 purge.

Now you done went and made me nostalgic. Don't ask.

I liked Broken Under Me because it was a PWP that kept the characters in character. But then, I like all of your stuff that I've read.

And FF.net after the purge scares me. I thought that the purge was stupid to begin with, given that you had to click a button declaring that you were of legal age to read such materials. Talk about people not taking responsibility for their own actions.

Alithea wrote:

Really though, and my grilfriend could probably attest to this, this fic just goes to prove how evil I am.

Yes, yes...  She is quite evil when she wants to be. 

Razara wrote:

Alithea wrote:

I don't understand Juri/Saionji and it sort of took me off gaurd when I went back to ff.net.

I'm always hearing about that pairing, yet I've never actually read one myself. It's not a pairing that interests me, and I can't really see it happening. Of course, Juri is... Well, Juri, and so she gets paired with everyone. Shiori, Ruka, Utena, Anthy, Akio, Touga, Saionji, Miki, Nanami, Wakaba, Kanae, Keiko, Kozue, and Mitsuru. I should write JurixMrs. Ohtori and JurixThe Guidance Councilor just to finish off that last few non-existing pairings. >_o

I love pairings that don't make sense, but some of those fanfictions don't work out very well. It's difficult to make them seem realistic.

What about Jurixthat teacher with the awful glasses? Or is that the guidance counselor? I can never quite tell what her purpose on campus is, other than harassing Utena.

You know, technically it's not all that offensive to make straight characters gay in fanfic... so it shouldn't annoy me so much to see people making Juri straight... but it does, and not only because they have to butcher her character to do it.