Thank him. I like perfect endings.

Thank him! I doubt the perfect ending is something you have to work not to get, whether we shoot for it or not. Plus, I'd rather feed someone else to Chigusa.

Thank him

Thank him.

I would actually kinda like to see more of Touga. (Take that any way you want.) Thank him.

Dallbun wrote:

Nights1stStar wrote:

Wait...both of the game guides I read said that "saying you want to be engaged" gains you the Anthy point...I mean, that's the one which makes the most sense, b/c it puts you on Anthy's radar that you're a potential prey (er, I meant opportunity) So...confused...

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure, but joking is the choice that gives us the weird chiming noise that indicates an Anthy point (or so I'm given to understand). Either the guides are wrong about the choice, or the sound, and I suspect it's the former.

They both should have a chime.  "I want to become engaged too" is the Anthy point.  The other one is the Gag point, which...I'm not sure what it does, really, besides let you avoid getting points (and also lets you tell horrible jokes).  I looked in the guidebook, but my Japanese grammar is very rusty, so I'll post the appropriate part here.

少女革命ウテナいつか革命される物語オフィシャルガイド pg. 26 wrote:

基本5:  アンシーポイントとギャグポイント
隠しパラメータとして、アンシーポイントとギャグポイントというものがある。
それをうまく集めないと、アンシー編のインディングへはいけない。
ではそれはどういうものなのかと言うと、アンシーポイントとは、すなわちアン
シーウケする選択肢を選んだ場合に得られる。 ギャグポイントは、読んで字のご
とく、ギャグ選択肢を選んだ場合に得られる。
この2つを得た場合は、特殊な効果音が流れ、それを示す。 ゲームの途中でとき
どき聞こえる怪しい音がそうなのだ。

この場合のときに
22日のカフェテリア。 この場合が一番よくわかる。 アンシー、ギャグどちらへ
も分岐するので、効果音を聞き分けよう。
「わたしもインゲージしたい」⇒アンシーポイントアップ
こちらはアンシーポイントアップの場合。 ようするに、アンシーとエンゲージし
たいということだからね。
「ボケをかましてみる」⇒ギャグポイントアップ
こちらはギャグを選んだ場合。 ギャグポイントの効果音が鳴るが、ウテナのウケ
が悪く、かわされる...。

Dallbun wrote:

Nights1stStar wrote:

We can't get the Anthy ending, anyways, so it's not like it's a loss.

Actually, according to Ozma, we can (and I'd trust Ozma, she has seriously strong fairy magic). I haven't checked myself or anything, though.

I wish I could provide photographic proof, but I don't have a camera at the moment.  All I can do at the moment is say that there are ten possible endings (Utena, four Student Council members, Perfect, Normal, Black Rose, Anthy and Akio).  No ending requires you to play through the game once before being allowed to get it.

Huh, cool! I had no idea that Gag and Anthy Points were separate! I must not have noticed the Anthy Point sound on the first play-through. I'll keep an ear out for them from now on, though I guess the choices should be fairly clear.

Revolutionary Girl Utena: Itsuka Kakumei sareru Monogatari Official Guide pg 26 wrote:

There are also two hidden parameters, Anthy Points and Gag Points. If you don't collect them diligently, you can't get the Anthy Ending. What are these, you ask? Well, you receive Anthy Points when you select choices that favor Anthy, and likewise, you receive Gag Points when you make jokes. In both cases, you'll hear a special sound effect to indicate it, which are those suspicious-sounding noises you sometimes hear during the game.

For example, take choice at the cafeteria on the 22nd. This is the best opportunity to understand the system. You choose to gain either an Anthy Point or a Gag Point, and learn to recognize the noises for each.

"I want to become engaged too" -> Anthy Point Up
This is the selection that gives you an Anthy Point. After all, you are saying that you want to become engaged to her.

"Try making a joke" -> Gag Point Up
This is the gag choice. You hear the sound effect for a Gag Point, but Utena doesn't seem to appreciate it, and just shrugs off the joke...

Yeah, that certainly doesn't make it clear what the difference is, does it?

Ozma wrote:

I wish I could provide photographic proof, but I don't have a camera at the moment.

Don't worry about it, no need to go that far. Cool, so we can get the Anthy ending whenever... but this time around, we probably want an ending that completes the plot properly, anyway.


Moving on, we decide to thank Touga for gracing us with his charming presence.

D-ko:
My name's Kageno D-ko.
First of all, thank you for inviting me to this wonderful ball.
It's my first one, so...

Touga:
Oh? Well, don't be nervous.
It's fine to just talk to your friends, or to enjoy the food.
But, of course, the purpose of a ball is to dance.
A man reaches out for a woman's hand,
and their sweet evening in the ballroom begins.

(Music: Eros of the Dance, D1T11)

D-ko:
Waa! He's taking my hand!

Touga:
Won't you please grant me a dance, young lady?

D-ko:
Uh, sure...

Anthy:
Have fun.

Utena:
That guy moves fast, so be careful!

Touga +1
38% -> 46% (+8%)

Darn, +9% would have been so simple.

Student: (Female)
Hey, who's that dancing with Touga?

Student: (Female)
The honor of having the first dance with Touga usually goes to a girl who's great at sports, or academics!

Student: (Female)
I've never seen that girl before...

D-ko:
Uh, it seems like we're attracting a lot of attention for some reason...
It's like everyone's hostile, or jealous... that's the kind of looks we're getting.

Touga:
What's wrong?
You seem uncomfortable.
Or could it be that there's someone else who's caught your eye?

D-ko:
N, no, nothing like that.
Doesn't this guy look kind of like someone I know...? But who?

Touga:
You're in the East Dorm, just like Tenjou-kun, right?
So, how is it? Are you pleased with it?

D-ko:
The Chairman of the Board just told me where I would be living after school today...
So I haven't even spent thirty minutes in my room yet.

Touga:
Oh, you met the Chairman?

D-ko:
Yeah.

Touga:
...I see.
By the way, at your previous school, were you in any clubs or activities?
For instance, fencing, or kendo?

D-ko:
No, I didn't really do any extracurriculars at my last school.
I've never done anything like fencing or kendo.
But apparently, a long time ago, my father used to be the adviser
for the Fencing Club here.
Hey, that's right... this guy looks kind of like dad!

Touga:
So your parents also attended this school?

D-ko:
Yeah, they say they met in the Fencing Club.
But according to my mom, she wasn't very good at it.
...and I think I probably take after my mom more.

Touga:
Is that so... at Ohtori Academy...

(Music: Campus Dandy, D3T13)

D-ko:
He's suddenly gone quiet. I wonder why?
Did I accidentally say something to offend him?
Um, excuse me...

Touga:
Hm? Oh, I'm sorry!
It's rude to have something else on one's mind while dancing with a lady.

D-ko:
No, it's okay...

Touga:
Ah... the music is stopping, it seems.
I guess our time together is over.
I had lots of fun. I'd like to talk with you again.

D-ko:
Wow, he has a wonderful smile.
I can see how girls would fall for him easily...
I'm also...

Touga:
Well, then, later.
Next time, let's make it just the two of us.

Oh, Touga. Getting to first base with Miki is probably going to be much more of a challenge.

(Music: Eros of the Dance, D1T11)
D-ko:
What should I do? I've been separated from Utena!
Where did those two go...
(I thought if I took off my mask, I'd be able to find them over there, but...)

Chu-Chu:
Chuuuuuu!

D-ko:
That voice is...!



(Music: Suspicion, D3T16)

Saionji:
What is it?
Do you want this, monkey?

Chu-Chu:
Chu, chuu!

Saionji:
Come on!
If you want it, reach up higher and take it!

D-ko:
It's that guy from this morning!
He's bullying Chu-Chu... what should I do?

CHOICE:
Confront him directly
Turn his attention some other way (+1 SAIONJI)

So Miki oversees the music and food, Touga mingles, Juri glares threateningly at troublemakers, and Saionji... torments monkeys. It's a wonder he's still popular.

Last edited by Dallbun (01-31-2010 02:33:09 AM)

Divert his attention the old-fashioned way! (probably something involving boobies. )

Amen, killerQ, she's gotta show him her tits. Distract him!!!!

Divert his attention, please!

Divert his attention.

Man, nothing quite so sexy as a dude that looks like your dad. rawr.   Though granted, if Touga's ending may reveal some of the him and Akio dramaz, I am all for it.

DIVERT HIM.


Also, wtf is with Saionji and bananas?