I wonder if the yuri was focus on UtenaxNanami..

Who would be more dominant?
Who would clean the house? Will they share responsibilities?

Personally, I can't see Nanami washing clothes..

If Utena was more dominant, I think Nanami would go all 'Touga-love' on her, they'd have occasional fights of how dense Utena is and how hard headed Nanami is.. lol

If Nanami was more dominant, I think Utena would be pissed off all the time with her ordering and stuff..
(Though, I can't see Utena acting like a bodyguard for Nanami)

Wardah Ahmar wrote:

Why does one assume Akio is the seducer in this case? He seemed to be pretty submissive with her. Perhaps she seduced him, possibly at quite a young age, like when he was a student at Tsuwabuki's age? Perhaps her role is more than what is hinted at? Maybe Anthy was trying to protect her brother from her and all hell broke loose causing the swords of hate and all that? Maybe Mrs. Ohtori is more than just a foil for Akio's lust?

Uhh...Remember Akio, the supernatural being who doesn't get any older, throughout the decades between the fire at Nemuro Memorial Hall and the modern day Ohtori? As far as we know, Akio has never been a boy of Tsuwabuki's age. As Dios, his apparent age seemed fluid, depending on who was watching him and as the Chairman, he's always been the "Daddy Long Legs".

And while Akio plays the underdog with Mrs. Ohtori, it's quite obvious who is dominating that whole scene. Mrs. Ohtori's "threats" are thin air and they both know it. Theyr'e just an excuse to get her laid.

I would guess that in a UtenaXNanami pairing, nanami would just slap Anthy around to her her to do the laundry.

I wonder what Utena would have to say in that?
Now I'm also feeling curious of in what conditions would Nanami become infatuated with Utena...

Last edited by Lightice (10-25-2007 06:01:55 AM)

Somethin' else that would be cool to see, not sure if it's been mentioned yet or not, Saionji when he wins his first duel.

Forget deleted scenes, I want to see the deleted commentary track where Ikuhara cackles evilly, reveals that all the symbolism was just a gimmick to keep us guessing, and he really only made Utena as a tribute to his love for biker shorts.

Er, but as for deleted scenes, I just really want to know who won Anthy before Utena showed up (besides Saionji) and how they interacted with her. Especially her "engagement" to Juri, because Juri/Anthy is my secret crack pairing >.>

Nanami + Utena = Yuki + Shuichi, only hotter.
I love yaoi and all, but our beloved blonde bombshell has more testosterone than the entire cast of Gravitation put together.

Wardah Ahmar wrote:

But it doesn't seem she gets older either. If he has been the chairman that long wouldn't she have noticed something strange unless she somehow was involved too?

Who says he has been the chairman for long? From the dialogues we can deduce that Akio only became the acting chairman after he got engaged to Kanae and the real chairman became ill. All these are recent events. Before that Akio's influence has been subtler kind, although he's undoubtedly had various positions of power, before. Maybe he's even been a chairman in the past, but not in his current identity.
In any case, there is nothing to indicate that Mrs. Ohtori would possess any supernatural origin, herself. She certainly doesn't appear anywhere in the flashbacks of the Nemuro Memorial Hall. Also remember that nowhere in those flashbacks Akio is referred to by name.

Akio was once Dios until he fell. Perhaps he fell because his sister failed to protect him and the reason she is the "witch" has more to do with her interfering in adult business where as "princesses" stay out of such things and are concerned with childlike matters instead.

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I'm sorry, but I don't entirely see what you mean here. The fall of Dios was caused, as far as we can tell, from what happened to Anthy when she tried to protect him from dying to defend ungrateful people. I don't see how that relates to Mrs. Ohtori.

Excuse my rambling but I just think there is more to this family than meets the eye.

There certainly is in Alan Harnum's excellent but permanently unfinished fanfic Jaquemart, but in the series proper, the Ohtori family isn't considered important enough to get more than few minutes of screentime and almost no exposition, whatsoever. Everything in the series, itself indicates that they're just Akio's pawns, existing only to offer a suitable reason why a very young-looking man without any kind of deductible past or connections would be in charge of a esteemed private school. Plus it gives him an excuse of not bothering with the actual duties of the position - he's just the acting chairman, after all and can leave all the routine stuff to the more experienced staff members.

(Bump!)

1. First of all I want to see how and when Akio manipulated Kozue in episode twenty-six.  My guess is that he basically promised her Miki's undivided attention if she did whatever he said. Would she be suspicious about his offer?
2. I would have rather seen Ruka lured into Akio's Chevrolet than Shiori.
3. I want to see how in the world Kanae became catatonic.
4. What happened to Wakaba between her Black Rose duel and her return home? It's implied that she remembered the event.
5. This isn't really a missing scene so much as a hypothetical extra one. I would have died of happiness if it was implied that Nanami and Mitsuru were married about twenty years in the future.

At the final episode, when we see all the characters doing their life, we see the nemurial memorial hall. But I would like to know what the hell happened to Mikage, it would help to understand what really happened to Utena.

Bonus points if we see him and Ruka (in the case he's not really dead) in the real world. Not necessary facing each other, as they don't know about their existence, but coinciding somewhere.

I would have loved to see the conversation in the movie in which Anthy convinces Utena to model naked.

That's about the only thing I can think of that doesn't have that much reasonable justification behind it

Rotten Mooring wrote:

Hypothetical deleted scene on my wish list?
     The Shadow Girls blowing a bunch of balloons. Maybe even doing a skit about the merits of blowing them by hand verses using an air canister. (The balloons are the only selection of the random student council imagery sets that just doesn't quite explain itself well to my brain. Seeing the Shadow Girls take responsibility for them would make me feel better .)

Naughty   But that's a good point, actually!  I'd like to see that too.  Except that then balloons would be a recurring symbol, and we might be obliged to revisit them... man, symbolism is hard to do right!

I want to see a scene through the lens of Tsuwabuki's camcorder where he's set it up to record him training horses and kangaroos to attack Nanami.  In my imagination, Nanami is a straw dummy like the Shadow Girls at the end of the movie.

I would watch a whole series of Wakaba & Saionji living together in Wakaba's dorm. It would be like a gender-swapped I Love Lucy.

Riri-kins wrote:

(Bump!)

1. First of all I want to see how and when Akio manipulated Kozue in episode twenty-six.  My guess is that he basically promised her Miki's undivided attention if she did whatever he said. Would she be suspicious about his offer?
2. I would have rather seen Ruka lured into Akio's Chevrolet than Shiori.
3. I want to see how in the world Kanae became catatonic.
4. What happened to Wakaba between her Black Rose duel and her return home? It's implied that she remembered the event.
5. This isn't really a missing scene so much as a hypothetical extra one. I would have died of happiness if it was implied that Nanami and Mitsuru were married about twenty years in the future.

1.) Well she would do anything for Miki. Also I guess she wanted a little taste of the power she could have over someone.
2.) Ruka is already tainted. Shiori, as Juri said, is "innocently cruel." Even Shiori herself admits that she looked pathetic trying to win Juri's attention. Unlike Kozue, Shiori is painfully naive.
3.) It's kinda obvious she was already having a mental breakdown. She had some hardcore feelings since the Black Rose Arc. She knows that Akio will never really belong to her so she went crazy.
4.) Every one of the Black Rose duelists remembers their duel. In the part where Utena tears off her rose, she cried because she didn't know how much Utena cared about her as a friend. She decides to give up on expressing hate since it's not worth it.
5.) It's implied that Nanami might have something going on with Saionji actually O_o

Giovanna wrote:

That or you'd end up with some American Psycho level shallow bullshit where the question of identity is avoided by going berserk over the fine details of his morning routine.

This honestly made me laugh harder than it should have.