Double post time: Dante Basco is reading Homestuck.

No, really. RUFIOOOOOOOOOO is reading Homestuck. His reaction so far is basically what is this, I don't even.

That ain't Fef.  Doesn't look like the Condesce as a child, either.  So this is indeed a troll from the first troll session, most likely the troll who is to the Condesce what John is to Jane's grandfather.  I guess it was inevitable that we'd see more of that session.  Hope they're on our side!!

Edited to correct "Jade" to "Jane."  Aaargh!

Last edited by satyreyes (02-29-2012 01:10:15 AM)

AHHH IT'S HER BROTHER!

UU said she had a brother!  I wondered what tag he could possibly have.  Turns out it's... UU. 

The first UU, uranianUmbra, types in lowercase except for U's.  Her brother, undyingUmbrage, types in uPPERCASE EXCEPT FOR u'S.  This reminds me more than a little bit of Gamzee's alternating lowercase and uppercase lines, now literally split into two individuals.  That could be coincidence, but if he is somehow involved with the UUs, maybe we will finally understand why he is the most important character in Homestuck. 

I don't think he idolizes them.  In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that uu and UU are the same individual manifesting two opposite personalities.

Maybe so   But I think the schizophrenic theory actually just got stronger.  uu keeps telling UU to stop sending him stuff about the kids, but he keeps finding another goddamn wall of text on his terminal.  One likely explanation is that they are the same troll and they have the same terminal.  Naturally, the last thing UU was looking at is still on the terminal when uu emerges and looks at it.

A friend of mine theorizes that uu/UU killed the twelve alpha trolls, on the basis that the Calmasis character in Roxy's mom's Complacency of the Learned novels kills all twelve of the kid wizards.  I'm not sure how that can be true if the alpha trolls scratched their session, but it's intriguing.

The white eyes could mean that they're dead.  That's always what it's meant before.  But I'm having trouble reconciling that with Doc Scratch (who doesn't lie) saying that the alpha trolls scratched their session.  Scratching is supposed to mean that your universe and everyone in it cease to exist; the original kids escaped by not technically being in their universe at the time.  Did the alpha trolls do something similar, and later die?

More possibilities:
UU and uu are two different trolls, assuming UU wasn't lying when she said they don't have the same blood color. (UU's blood probably falls between Sollux and Nepeta, while uu stays mutant red.)
The dead trolls we've seen so far aren't actually the pre-Scratch Ancestors. They might represent a third Troll universe, distinct from the one the Sufferer dreamed of and the one Karkat grew up in, but with the pre-Scratch Ancestors as players once again. This may or may not be the universe of UU and uu. Of course, my brother would like to point out that such a proliferation of universes is silly, and we may have evidence (via FedoraFreak) of two sessions running off of the same planet at the same time (thus making UU and uu possible contemporaries of Karkat).
The Dream Bubbles, because they're located within the Furthest Ring, could easily be the same ones that Feferi convinced the Horrorterrors to make. The Furthest Ring exists beyond defined space and time. The dead trolls could be from any universe or any timeline, be it pre-Troll-Scratch or post-(TrollScratch & HumanScratch) sessions.
This assumes that, as far as the Bubbles are concerned, death through getting caught in the Scratch still gets admission. Even if it doesn't, they (or versions thereof) could have died before their session was scratched.

I like examining possibilities. A slight irritant about Homestuck is that the in-universe rules allow almost every possible theory to be true, just somewhere off-screen.
I hope I don't come across as trolling.

Last edited by 7scimitarroll (03-04-2012 02:41:22 PM)

oh man.....
The idea that Roxy and Dirk live on a different time from Jake and Jane is... potentially possible.

I like the idea that all this are happening at the "same planet at the same time". That could potentially explain why Nana knows what a computer is aside from the fact that she's a sprite and probably has seen it all from beyond the grave. She also "remembered" John to also be her "grandfather".

So far, we've seen Jake and Roxy sending stuff back to their grandmother and mother, respectively, believing that they are actually sending it back in time. The concept of time/space is, like Doctor Who once said, very timey-wimey. :U

EDIT: Wait... I just remembered that Jake had posters of modern blue ladies from various modern movies... I think I'm confusing myself now.

Last edited by Hiraku (03-04-2012 06:25:30 PM)

On that note, though, it would seem that not only was the Condesce able to remain alive for so long (Ship moving super fast, so that would explain it), she was also able to pass from Beta to the Alpha timeline.

Looks like she plays a much bigger role than just being a backstory. And, I'll never look at another Betty Crocker brand stuff in the grocery store the same way ever again.

Right, see, so the point was that something can be unlikely and still possible.  Hussie just keeps us guessing. 

I didn't understand all of it.  Did Jane enter the Medium?  I didn't see her do anything with her tree, but there's a hole where her house should be, so... yes?  But she didn't prototype her Kernelsprite first, which is supposed to make the game unwinnable.  Bad news! 

satyreyes wrote:

I didn't understand all of it.  Did Jane enter the Medium?  I didn't see her do anything with her tree, but there's a hole where her house should be, so... yes?  But she didn't prototype her Kernelsprite first, which is supposed to make the game unwinnable.  Bad news! 

Remember, this session's Prospit and Derse don't have any prototyping spires. The BQ's ring and WK's scepter both lack orbs. I think it's safe to say that the Alpha Session won't have any pre-entry prototyping. However, Jade's bringing the Beta session's fully prototyped battlefield, along with four planets and possibly a genesis tadpole. That may be enough.

I think Jane entered the Medium. Her house almost certainly did, and she's already awake on Prospit, so she has a pretty good chance of survival. I'm a bit more worried about Jake. His island, plus what would-have-been the Forge, was still in place post-Condescension.

Regarding The Condesce: I think she's immortal unless slain even without the relativistic effects of space travel—assuming relativity is still a thing. If nothing else, she's now the emissary of Lord English. I'm still curious about how she got to Earth. Perhaps via a fenestrated wall? I forget what Doc Scratch had and what they linked to.

I think the checkerboard-like appearance was just in Roxy's area. Perhaps it was colonized by Exiles?

Last edited by 7scimitarroll (03-08-2012 09:07:58 PM)

We still don't know how HIC got to Beta Earth, either so it may be that there was always something special about her ship. Plus, there is always the void, man. Time and space break down there. (Are the horrorterrors singularity?)