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I just finished Bone in the Throat, by Anthony Bourdain. He cooks, he travels, he writes novels, he shows up at my door and fucks the life out of me*!!!

If you like Bourdain, New York City, food, and The Sopranos, this book is for you! If any of these things aren't up your alley just skip it. It's hardly Joyce, but it's really not meant to be. Fun, lots of blood and profanity, and makes you laugh. He has a talent for depicting severe disdain. I suspect it comes from his talent for being disdainful, which you're familiar with if you've ever heard him talk about Rachel Ray or McNuggets. Also, at moments, as one might expect, he goes into severe and overall unnecessary detail concerning the preparation of food. If you're a foodie this won't bother you in the least, actually I thought the food wanking was quite adorable and suspect he was sporting a hardon whenever he described the mise en place.

Next up, I shall read The Alchemist, by Paulo Coelho. I suspect it'll have less cursing Feds and drug use.

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#177 | Back to Top03-21-2007 10:21:54 PM

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Giovanna wrote:

I just finished Bone in the Throat, by Anthony Bourdain. He cooks, he travels, he writes novels, he shows up at my door and fucks the life out of me*!!!

If you like Bourdain, New York City, food, and The Sopranos, this book is for you! If any of these things aren't up your alley just skip it. It's hardly Joyce, but it's really not meant to be. Fun, lots of blood and profanity, and makes you laugh. He has a talent for depicting severe disdain. I suspect it comes from his talent for being disdainful, which you're familiar with if you've ever heard him talk about Rachel Ray or McNuggets. Also, at moments, as one might expect, he goes into severe and overall unnecessary detail concerning the preparation of food. If you're a foodie this won't bother you in the least, actually I thought the food wanking was quite adorable and suspect he was sporting a hardon whenever he described the mise en place.

Next up, I shall read The Alchemist, by Paulo Coelho. I suspect it'll have less cursing Feds and drug use.

*I wish.

I'm totally stealing Bone in the Throat. Right now, though, I'm reading Heinlein's For Us, The Living, the lost first novel. What they say is true, so far; it has all of the seeds of Heinlein's later works in it. If you don't like being lectured, skip it, and move on to The Moon is a Harsh Mistress or Stranger in a Strange Land, where many of these themes are also explored in a more story-driven (and ultimately heart-wrenching) fashion. This book seems largely comprised of lectures put into a story in an attempt to teach, and if you don't grok Heinlein, you will likely be bored.

I grok Heinlein, though. I love this. emot-keke


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#178 | Back to Top03-22-2007 12:39:02 PM

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Yasha wrote:

I grok Heinlein, though. I love this. emot-keke

I totally don't grok Heinlein, mostly because I take issue with the way he depicts women in his stories.  No matter how independent and on top of things they might seem at first, they're usually forced into some sort of damsel-in-distress role, and nearly all end up with the protagonist at the end, usually knocked up.  *sigh*  Boooooooring, not to mention condescending.

That, and my ex is a huge Heinlein fan.  Gragh.

What am I assigned to read this week?  Hmmm... Now that my Japanese lit class is done with what I like to call the "Soseki Cycle," I'm reading Some Prefer Nettles by Jun'ichiro Tanizaki.  For my Asian Families anthro class, I'm also reading Family Matters by Rohinton Mistry.


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#179 | Back to Top03-22-2007 03:56:14 PM

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mercurynin wrote:

Yasha wrote:

I grok Heinlein, though. I love this. emot-keke

I totally don't grok Heinlein, mostly because I take issue with the way he depicts women in his stories.  No matter how independent and on top of things they might seem at first, they're usually forced into some sort of damsel-in-distress role, and nearly all end up with the protagonist at the end, usually knocked up.  *sigh*  Boooooooring, not to mention condescending.

That, and my ex is a huge Heinlein fan.  Gragh.

What am I assigned to read this week?  Hmmm... Now that my Japanese lit class is done with what I like to call the "Soseki Cycle," I'm reading Some Prefer Nettles by Jun'ichiro Tanizaki.  For my Asian Families anthro class, I'm also reading Family Matters by Rohinton Mistry.

I totally understand what you mean about the portrayal of women, but it doesn't bother me very much. I just ignore it and pretend everyone is like the men. Heinlein had some major blinders where women are concerned.


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#180 | Back to Top03-24-2007 03:29:16 AM

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I'm reading Tamora Pierce's Trickster's Choice, AND very much enjoying it.

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#181 | Back to Top03-25-2007 11:55:27 PM

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I'm reading Tamora Pierce's Trickster's Choice, AND very much enjoying it.

Why yes, I am a thirteen-year-old girl at heart. emot-biggrin

SHITE.

Read the Song of the Lioness Quartet, STAT! Trickster's Choice and Trickster's Queen are awesome books, but Alanna resonated far more strongly as a character in my opinion. I actually read those books young enough that I think they had a big impact on who I am and what I believe.


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#182 | Back to Top03-25-2007 11:59:53 PM

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Nee... Out of curiosity, how did you found your favorite author/series/books? There're millions of potentially good read, but I don't know how else to find them besides what my classes recommend/require for me to read. Any pointers? emot-confused

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#183 | Back to Top03-26-2007 12:27:09 AM

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Giovanna wrote:

You know, I do that all the time. emot-frown I won't poo-poo a book immediately, but a good cover will get me to read the back when I might otherwise pass it by on the shelf. I also live by refusing to read a book where the cover includes: a horse, a dress, and a man with long blond hair. emot-gonk

Oh, come on Gio. That's a hallmark of fine literature. emot-keke

Srsly, Anne McCaffery's The Ship Who Sang is easily one of the best piece of overlooked science fiction. Like. EVER. Yasha, I think you'd enjoy it. It's set in a future where children that are deformed are trained to become massive comptuers and basically become the CPU for a spaceship.

Like Water for Chocolate =Shite. Don't bother. I hated this novel more then I can make you comprehend.

And as for delicious, thirteen year old at the heart novels, Mara, Daughter of The Nile gets me everytime. Not the most historically correct thing ever, but fabby anyway. I stole it from my middle school library. I stole so many boks...I was a student assisstant, lol. I think my sister ended up taking i back though... emot-frown I ought to buy it this tiem around.

Edit: Augh! Don't read the first review of  The Ship Who Sang. Bastard posted a story outline with a bunch of spoilers. What a fucktard. emot-mad

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#184 | Back to Top03-26-2007 12:48:52 AM

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Srsly, Anne McCaffery's

The Ship Who Sang is easily one of the best piece of overlooked science fiction. Like. EVER. Yasha, I think you'd enjoy it. It's set in a future where children that are deformed are trained to become massive comptuers and basically become the CPU for a spaceship.

Dude, I own it. It really is an awesome book; Helva is fantastic, and I always wonder what kind of training they put her through when she was young. It ties in with the Crystal Singer series too, at least in that it's set in the same universe. I always loved the Crystal Singer series because, like the main character, I have an opera quality voice-- but, like the main character, it's flawed in a way that would limit me to secondary roles. And, like her, I said 'Fuck that cool I'm gonna do something completely different cool' But yes, The Ship Who Sang is totally worth the read. Big time. I tend to like McCaffery's straight sci-fi better than her Pern stuff... except, of course, Dragonsinger and Dragonsong.

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#185 | Back to Top03-26-2007 12:55:39 AM

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Okay, i just used Amazon for the first time, like...posting those links was the first time I ever checked it out, and I've got to say, some of those reviews piss me off. Some dipshit posted about The Ship Who Sang, an I was just like "...that's wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong...did you EVEN READ THE BOOK?" What a lamer. I'll have to ignore the reviews I suppose...

Haha, I'm so awesome, predicting your taste. There's another one called Nectar (can't remember the author:embarrassed:) that you might enjoy. It's about a viciously ugly albino women who has this intoxicating scent that makes every man want to sleep with her. She wants to be a grand opera singer, but she, to put it very, very nicely, sucks like whoa. It also takes place in late 1700's Italy. emot-keke It's...it's a read, y'know? Not gonna top any of my lists anytime soon, but it's a pretty funny book you can knock out in a day.

Edit: You know, I've tried so many times to get interested in her Pern stories -and I read a short story in middle school from one of the books- but I  just...can't. Absolutly not hooked. emot-frown It makes me sad, because normally it's the sort of thing I'd like. emot-frown

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#186 | Back to Top03-26-2007 12:57:59 AM

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That does sound really cute. Unfortunately, I've got my dose for the week of books-- went shopping at the used bookstores and got some stuff that looks good. I'll let you know how they turn out when I finish them, I think you might be interested in one of them, or possibly have already read it.

Edit: The Pern stuff is... I dunno. It gets better with Dragonsdawn, I think. I enjoy the books, but they're not my favorites. If I want dragonish goodness, I read The Hobbit, or The Neverending Story (which, by the way, is fantastic and wonderful and SO much better than the movies-- and I actually liked the movies a lot).

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#187 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:03:12 AM

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Oooo, used book stores. etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

Also:

OMG SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S READ THE NEVERENDING STORY I HEART YOU SO MUCH.

I translated a paragraph from the original german back in high school. Die Undendliche Geschite = etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

And a etc-love for Michael Ende, too! Just because!


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#188 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:06:00 AM

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morosemocha wrote:

Oooo, used book stores. etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

Also:

OMG SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S READ THE NEVERENDING STORY I HEART YOU SO MUCH.

I translated a paragraph from the original german back in high school. Die Undendliche Geschite = etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

And a etc-love for Michael Ende, too! Just because!

HELL YEAH. cool

Hardly anyone I know has read it, and it's a total classic! Next thing you're going to be telling me you like The Little Prince and The Last Unicorn and Come, Lady Death too. emot-tongue


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#189 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:08:18 AM

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...No, now I'm a loser. emot-frown Although I did start reading The Last Unicorn in middle school and I remember not being too gripped by it. Maybe I'll have to try it again. I read A Little Princess, tho. Does that count?


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#190 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:09:09 AM

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Yasha wrote:

morosemocha wrote:

Oooo, used book stores. etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

Also:

OMG SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S READ THE NEVERENDING STORY I HEART YOU SO MUCH.

I translated a paragraph from the original german back in high school. Die Undendliche Geschite = etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love etc-love

And a etc-love for Michael Ende, too! Just because!

HELL YEAH. cool

Hardly anyone I know has read it, and it's a total classic! Next thing you're going to be telling me you like The Little Prince and The Last Unicorn and Come, Lady Death too. emot-tongue

The Little Prince? I LOVE the book, I read it over and over and over and over nonstop when I was in 7th grade. And, I'd cry for the fox, and the sheep, and the star in the sky toward the end of the story.

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#191 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:15:47 AM

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Hiraku wrote:

The Little Prince? I LOVE the book, I read it over and over and over and over nonstop when I was in 7th grade. And, I'd cry for the fox, and the sheep, and the star in the sky toward the end of the story.

...Well, that was... esoteric. I'll have to pick that up, I think...


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#192 | Back to Top03-26-2007 01:19:36 AM

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morosemocha wrote:

...No, now I'm a loser. emot-frown Although I did start reading The Last Unicorn in middle school and I remember not being too gripped by it. Maybe I'll have to try it again. I read A Little Princess, tho. Does that count?

Yes. Actually, I just finished rereading that about a week ago. emot-smile

Also... do give The Last Unicorn another try. The humor is far too dry for a middle schooler, and the more touching aspects aren't until further in. The book isn't very long at all, it's a day's read if you read quickly, and it's one of the most wonderful books I've ever read. My favorite, actually. I reviewed it earlier in this thread.

Hiraku wrote:

The Little Prince? I LOVE the book, I read it over and over and over and over nonstop when I was in 7th grade. And, I'd cry for the fox, and the sheep, and the star in the sky toward the end of the story.

And this one is another favorite. Some of the most beautiful lines I've ever seen in a book.

The Fox wrote:

Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes.


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#193 | Back to Top03-27-2007 07:58:38 PM

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I must recommend the book I'm reading right now to you guys - it's called 'It Can't Happen Here', and it is by a man named Sinclair Lewis. It is, admittedly, a bit on the old side (written in 1935) and a bit long-ish (450-ish pages), but it isn't difficult reading at all, and it is really interesting. I think perhaps it would be more interesting for Americans, as it does take place in America and regards American politics in the 1930's. It is an alternate history, in which a different man than Franklin Roosevelt is elected in 1936, and then eventually becomes a dictator. There are definite parallels to today's political climate in the U.S., which I think it part of the reason I'm enjoying it so much.

Haha, pardon me, I'm obsessed with politics ^^; Perhaps it wouldn't be enjoyed by someone who isn't.


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#194 | Back to Top03-27-2007 09:00:09 PM

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I have heard so much good things about the animorph series good and I have been wanting to read them them for some time... but they are just so many!!! emot-gonk don't they come on sets or big condensed editions? Besides I would probably have to import them because I don't remember ever seeing an spanish edition.
mmm this is becoming into an obsesion since I knew the books existed, before I have only seen the nickelodeon show.


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#195 | Back to Top03-27-2007 09:22:02 PM

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ANIMORPHS IS THE SHIZNET YO. I used to have the first thirty books and a bucnh of the specials and stuff. But then I grew up. emot-frown

There's 53+extras books, and I think as a young adult science fiction series they're fantastic. KA Applegate did a second series called Everworld about a group of teenagers who got stuck shifting between the normal world and the Everworld -a place where all the gods went after they decided they didn't like Earth anymore. It's great. The Vikings try to invade the Mayans. etc-love etc-love etc-love


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#196 | Back to Top03-27-2007 11:19:54 PM

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morosemocha wrote:

The Vikings try to invade the Mayans. etc-love etc-love etc-love

Wow that sounds promising emot-aaa... but I thinking a fighting versus the Nordic gods vs the aztec would have been WIN for me emot-biggrin

But damnit I am still not sure if sell my soul and stay ever poorer by buying the 50+ volumes -.-


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#197 | Back to Top03-28-2007 07:16:42 AM

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Everworld was only ten books, I think. Try that, and see if you like her style enough to pick up Animorphs.

(And yeah, the Mayan's kinda are kickass, with the whole big birdlike god flying around and ripping out the hearts of drunken vikings. Shame she's not more graphic in her details, but it's a YA series, so....::shrug::emot-smile


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#198 | Back to Top03-28-2007 03:35:54 PM

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Romanticide wrote:

I have heard so much good things about the animorph series good and I have been wanting to read them them for some time... but they are just so many!!! emot-gonk don't they come on sets or big condensed editions? Besides I would probably have to import them because I don't remember ever seeing an spanish edition.
mmm this is becoming into an obsesion since I knew the books existed, before I have only seen the nickelodeon show.

(glances nervously at her collection)

Dude. The last time I read those books was when I was ten. I was crazy. Every week when a new episode came out, I printed out the screencaps on the website. I seriously had a crush on Christopher Ralph (Tobias). I even got the official actor biography book (with pictures)!!!!

Well, in general, I had a crush on Tobias all around. It's cool to be a bird.

Well, right now, I'm reading Ha Jin's Waiting for a second time. The ending is so touching!

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#199 | Back to Top03-28-2007 04:45:23 PM

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I'm reading The Hunchback of Notre-Dame right now. I got through a few hundred pages this morning. It's one of my favorite stories. etc-love


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#200 | Back to Top03-28-2007 07:35:11 PM

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Teapot wrote:

I'm reading The Hunchback of Notre-Dame right now. I got through a few hundred pages this morning. It's one of my favorite stories. etc-love

I've only read the translated version. And, after closing up the book, my first impression was, what the hell has Disney done to it...
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