This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#226 | Back to Top02-11-2014 10:42:10 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Shirley Temple, the youngest actress to ever win an Oscar, is dead.


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#227 | Back to Top03-28-2014 06:09:30 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

I have to say I won't be celebrating Fred Phelps's death. It's not as though he single-handedly created all homophobic legislation in the US, and his followers aren't going to drop their hateful protest signs and join the 21st century just because he's gone. FRED PHELPS DYING DOES NOT BENEFIT LGBTQ PEOPLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, ANY MORE THAN BIN LADEN'S DEATH UNDID THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WARS.

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#228 | Back to Top03-28-2014 10:18:30 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

If it makes you feel any better, many of Phelps' congregation/family had left the Westboro Baptists a long time ago. Some have even joined LGBTQ organizations. A lot of what they were doing was a direct result of his crazy, so we should at the very least see a lot less of it now.


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#229 | Back to Top03-28-2014 11:37:21 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Atropos wrote:

I have to say I won't be celebrating Fred Phelps's death. It's not as though he single-handedly created all homophobic legislation in the US, and his followers aren't going to drop their hateful protest signs and join the 21st century just because he's gone. FRED PHELPS DYING DOES NOT BENEFIT LGBTQ PEOPLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, ANY MORE THAN BIN LADEN'S DEATH UNDID THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WARS.

One less hateful asshole actively working from a very public position to hurt people, is always one less hateful asshole actively working to hurt people.

Are there other assholes? Sure. But that one's down.

If you have eight splinters in your foot, and you pull one out, you can be happy that's one down and seven to go. No shame in that.


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#230 | Back to Top03-28-2014 11:53:51 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

For those interested: Dave Brockie, better known as Oderus Urungus from the band GWAR, died on Sunday. ;_;


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#231 | Back to Top03-29-2014 05:41:03 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

Atropos wrote:

I have to say I won't be celebrating Fred Phelps's death. It's not as though he single-handedly created all homophobic legislation in the US, and his followers aren't going to drop their hateful protest signs and join the 21st century just because he's gone. FRED PHELPS DYING DOES NOT BENEFIT LGBTQ PEOPLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, ANY MORE THAN BIN LADEN'S DEATH UNDID THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WARS.

One less hateful asshole actively working from a very public position to hurt people, is always one less hateful asshole actively working to hurt people.

Are there other assholes? Sure. But that one's down.

If you have eight splinters in your foot, and you pull one out, you can be happy that's one down and seven to go. No shame in that.

Seconded.  To revise the metaphor a little bit, while Phelps promoted homophobia, Osama bin Laden did not start or promote the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.  Osama bin Laden, among others, promoted terrorism.*  Killing bin Laden did not undo 9/11, but maybe the absence of a highly visible and charismatic terrorist will make terrorism a little less appealing to the next generation.  Likewise Phelps.

I don't celebrate Phelps's death either.  I don't celebrate people's deaths.  It is grisly and callous to celebrate the death of a human being beloved by other human beings, even if I don't like any of those human beings.  But I don't mourn him, either.  I will leave that to the people who loved him.

* I am not excluding the possibility that aspects of how the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were conducted verge on terrorism.

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#232 | Back to Top04-18-2014 01:55:39 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Gabriel García Márquez, one of my favorite authors, passed away yesterday. May you rest in peace, wise man.

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#233 | Back to Top04-18-2014 02:37:04 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Snow wrote:

Gabriel García Márquez, one of my favorite authors, passed away yesterday. May you rest in peace, wise man.

Oh, that's terrible! (Most of these are, but you know...)


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#234 | Back to Top08-11-2014 05:09:16 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Robin Williams is dead at sixty-three. He was one of my favorite celebrities.  emot-frown


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#235 | Back to Top08-11-2014 05:19:50 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Riri-kins wrote:

Robin Williams is dead at sixty-three. He was one of my favorite celebrities.  emot-frown

I just woke up to the news, too..... emot-gonk They're ruling it as suicide... So many comedians went down that path... emot-frown

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#236 | Back to Top08-11-2014 05:32:20 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Why? Just...why?

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#237 | Back to Top08-11-2014 06:14:44 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Didn't he struggle with cocaine abuse and depression for years?  I guess it's a classic case of the tragic clown.  (sighs wistfully)


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#238 | Back to Top08-12-2014 08:02:36 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Riri-kins wrote:

Didn't he struggle with cocaine abuse and depression for years?  I guess it's a classic case of the tragic clown.  (sighs wistfully)

He was very open about the struggles he has had with drug abuse, depression, and primarily bipolar disorder. He did a lot to bring these issues out into the open, and I think for a long time he set a great example; he struggled, and admitted it frankly, but never seemed to use this disability as a crutch or for its value manipulatively speaking.

He was amazingly talented, and the world is less awesome with him gone from it. I hope his death ends up doing more good than evil. He was a poster child for the struggle with mental illness, and that he lost that struggle tells us we still have a long way to go with understanding and helping people with it.

His death is already sparking conversation, though at the moment it's not what I'd prefer. (A lot of complaining on Tumblr and such that we shouldn't be crying for a privileged white man's losing a struggle everyone else fights with fewer resources. Way to miss the point.)


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#239 | Back to Top08-12-2014 08:20:39 PM

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Tumblr Fun Fact: How much of a person you are, and therefore how much basic decency you deserve, is equal to the magnitude of the vector separating a rich cis het white man from you in n-space, where n is the number of axes of privilege under consideration.

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#240 | Back to Top08-13-2014 07:32:56 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

#SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen

#EndFathersDay


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#241 | Back to Top08-13-2014 08:52:08 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Also, Lauren Bacall died. There was a post (from HuffPo, probably) that mentions that every actor Madonna mentions in "Vogue" is dead, as of yesterday.


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#242 | Back to Top02-27-2015 10:25:23 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Leonard Nimoy has died. emot-frown


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#243 | Back to Top02-27-2015 10:30:33 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Ashnod wrote:

Leonard Nimoy has died. emot-frown

Well... at least we can say that he lived long and prospered. But the world is a little less awesome now that he's no longer in it.


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#244 | Back to Top02-27-2015 10:53:37 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Oh no! Now who will summarize "The Hobbit" for us? emot-frown

His legacy will outlive him, of course. But it's sad that it's a legacy he seemed to resent. He would have liked to be more than the guy who played Spock, and didn't like getting roped back into that role. I have no idea what his family life was like. Hopefully he left behind some people to whom he was just Leonard.

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#245 | Back to Top02-27-2015 11:14:07 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Ashnod wrote:

Leonard Nimoy has died. emot-frown

I just read that. Shame. He was one of a kind.


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#246 | Back to Top02-27-2015 03:28:45 PM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

I hope he passed easily (I haven't seen details). He seems to have had a good and broad life, and he certainly brought a lot to the table for all of us.


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#247 | Back to Top03-12-2015 09:58:57 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Sir Terry Pratchett, author of Discworld and Good Omens and a personal hero of mine, has passed away this morning. The fantasy genre is a little sadder for his loss.

Rest in peace you brilliant, brilliant man.

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#248 | Back to Top03-12-2015 10:23:10 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

Oh shit.

I knew it was coming. I knew. I remember the day it was made public that he'd been diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

But shit.


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#249 | Back to Top03-12-2015 11:02:48 AM

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Re: Saparmurat Niyazov is dead: the notable deaths thread.

That's so sad. He died just as one of my best friends introduced me to his work too.


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#250 | Back to Top03-12-2015 11:24:28 AM

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Aw man.

Maybe I'll have the wherewithal to talk about how I got introduced to him, it was… it was a pretty dramatic story, all things told.

RIP


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