This is a static copy of In the Rose Garden, which existed as the center of the western Utena fandom for years. Enjoy. :)

#26 | Back to Top12-17-2007 06:20:31 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Raven Nightshade wrote:

Scortia wrote:

Well, the real question would be "Ikuhara-sensei, will you give me an answer beyond 'himitsu desu'!?" emot-tongue

You mean, Ikuhara is actually Xelloss from Slayers?! I knew it! school-sherlock

I can't remember which con it was... one of the west coast ones. I had read a transcript from it and almost every question he'd either answer back with a question or say it's a secret.  Like Miki's stopwatch, the world will never know. emot-keke;

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#27 | Back to Top12-17-2007 07:30:57 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Maybe we would just be better off asking him something like, "If you could be any type of tree, what type would you want to be?" emot-frown

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#28 | Back to Top12-17-2007 07:41:54 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

You could ask him something absurd enough that maybe he'll dignify it with an answer.

'Saionji: boxers or briefs? emot-keke'


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#29 | Back to Top12-17-2007 08:13:54 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

*snerk* Good one, O Ends of the Forum. emot-dance


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#30 | Back to Top12-17-2007 09:37:43 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Scortia wrote:

Raven Nightshade wrote:

Scortia wrote:

Well, the real question would be "Ikuhara-sensei, will you give me an answer beyond 'himitsu desu'!?" emot-tongue

You mean, Ikuhara is actually Xelloss from Slayers?! I knew it! school-sherlock

I can't remember which con it was... one of the west coast ones. I had read a transcript from it and almost every question he'd either answer back with a question or say it's a secret.  Like Miki's stopwatch, the world will never know. emot-keke;

He's answered quite a bit of questions on the symbolism in the commentary for the last 3 episodes if I remember right.

On Miki's stopwatch, didn't he say that Miki was counting the seconds between people's lines?

If I remember right, a lot of Ikuhara's explanations for things seemed to be a little silly and unusual at times.  In the commentary, Chiho Saito recalls asking him about a lot of the symbolism and her response to almost every instance of his explanation was "...HUH????"

I've got nothing but respect for the guy, but even he himself said that some things were just done for the "coolness factor".  It's a lot like Takashi Miike.  His films can seem extraordinarily deep on the surface and you can come up with all sorts of amazing interpretations to the symbolism in his films, but half the time... if you ask him, his explanation can be so simplistic that it's a bit jarring.

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#31 | Back to Top12-17-2007 10:33:51 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

"When you made the Utena movie, what exactly were you smoking, and where can I get some?"
...Oh, that's technically two questions, isn't it? emot-tongue

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#32 | Back to Top12-18-2007 02:56:21 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Mendou wrote:

If I remember right, a lot of Ikuhara's explanations for things seemed to be a little silly and unusual at times.  In the commentary, Chiho Saito recalls asking him about a lot of the symbolism and her response to almost every instance of his explanation was "...HUH????"

What I got the most out of the commentary is that all Ikuhara ever does is sleep, ramble, and tell people to do their work over again. emot-keke

Giovanna wrote:

'Saionji: boxers or briefs? emot-keke'

loincloth. http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj177/spazgret/loincloth.gif

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#33 | Back to Top12-18-2007 03:42:43 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Scortia wrote:

Giovanna wrote:

'Saionji: boxers or briefs? emot-keke'

loincloth.

etc-love Only Saionji is man enough to wear a loincloth. etc-love

I was going to use Akio or Touga but then I realized how slim the odds are they bother with either. emot-gonk Whores.

As for Ikuhara, I did get into a chatroom interview once. I think I asked something to the effect of why does Chu-Chu dress like Akio and he said it was because Chu-chu's a fan of Akio's style. In other words, I knew better than to ask anything important. cool


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#34 | Back to Top12-18-2007 03:52:23 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Of course I will ask to Ikuhara the real role of Chu-chu in the Episode "Nanami's Egg".


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#35 | Back to Top12-18-2007 04:53:16 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Are you compensating with the Ohtori tower Ikuhara?


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#36 | Back to Top12-18-2007 11:12:47 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Sevelle wrote:

Are you compensating with the Ohtori tower Ikuhara?

Phallic symbols in Utena:

-Ohtori Tower
-Ohtori car
-Swords.  Lots of swords
-Sword penetrating flower

My my... emot-keke

I'd ask him his opinion on Utena herself.
She's rather forgotten for the main character of the show....


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#37 | Back to Top12-19-2007 08:47:37 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Ah...I'd have to ask him why he enjoys screwing with the fans so much by not answering questions seriously.


I'm a fan of pessimism: if you maintain the lowest expectations possible, they'll always be met or exceeded.

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#38 | Back to Top12-20-2007 10:42:44 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Iris: Don't forget carrots!... I know there's way more.  I discovered so many sexual images I never really paid attention to when I made my AMV.  emot-tongue  Ikuhara is a dirty boy.

Giovanna: Dunno if you watch Metalocalypse at all, but I figure Akio and Touga would share Skwisgaar's philosophy on underwear... you freeball it unless you get some of the kinky undies for sex games.  >_>  We know Akio doesn't wear them in the tv series, we've seen his pants unzipped low enough to see pubic hair if he had any.

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#39 | Back to Top12-03-2008 08:32:11 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Scortia wrote:

Giovanna: Dunno if you watch Metalocalypse at all, but I figure Akio and Touga would share Skwisgaar's philosophy on underwear... you freeball it unless you get some of the kinky undies for sex games.  >_>  We know Akio doesn't wear them in the tv series, we've seen his pants unzipped low enough to see pubic hair if he had any.

The sad thing is that I own Season One and I know that dialogue between him and Murderface.

And for some reason, regarding Akio, it just seems so RIGHT. school-devil


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#40 | Back to Top12-03-2008 11:11:30 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

"少女革命ウテナに関して、何故美少年を殺すことが好きですか?"

Translation: Regarding Shoujo Kakumei Utena, why do you like killing gorgeous male characters? emot-rofl

I once read an interview with Naoko Takeuchi (manga artist of Sailormoon) confessing that she likes killing her bishounen characters; I want to know Ikuhara's reason.


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#41 | Back to Top12-03-2008 11:50:53 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

".........Are roses REALLY that hard to draw??"

Hee hee. This question is based on pure unadulterated frustration. I remember watching the commentary on the movie (and you know he never bothers answering anything properly, or at all) and we get to the arena and what does he do??? Instead of talking about the symbolism or the meaning he starts talking about how hard it is to draw all those roses, to make them seem unique in that big field..... for some reason that quote has stuck with me as the epitome of why its impossible to get an explanation out of the man.

.......I DO sincerely hope someone else remembers this moment, so I don't look like a moron. LOL emot-gonk


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#42 | Back to Top12-04-2008 04:34:02 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

"Do you have any plans to create another mindscrew symbolism laden series?"

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#43 | Back to Top12-15-2008 06:29:22 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

"You once said that you didn't like the shipping tendencies of Sailor Moon fans. Does it bother you that a lot of Utena fans do the same thing?"


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#44 | Back to Top12-21-2008 02:22:56 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

I'd like to know if there might be a chance of a live-action movie.

would fans even like that ?

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#45 | Back to Top12-22-2008 09:24:16 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

When are you going to make more anime?

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#46 | Back to Top12-22-2008 11:17:47 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Can you show us a teaser of "Nokemono to Hanayome"?

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#47 | Back to Top03-06-2009 09:38:35 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Also, from the Opening Theme, what is:

"In the sunlit garden, we promised each other stuff" I don't recall seeing it in the anime..

stuff = we'll never fall in love with anyone else.

Might be better to ask what Okui Masami thought about that as she wrote the song. Albeit after probably having some 'coaching' about SKU.
I think I may have touched upon that in the article I wrote about the opening theme in the EM analysis section but I would rather forget about all that.. emot-gonk

I imagine its just Okui using Miki & Kozue's garden thing as a nice analogy to describe a romantic view of a couple, be it Utena & Anthy or whoever, for that moment in the verse. Its not terribly clever like Virtual Star or the dual songs but there's certainly enough gone into it to represent Utena well enough. I believe she just used it more for how it appeared and to refrence that element of the show.

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#48 | Back to Top03-06-2009 09:48:35 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Razara wrote:

I'd ask him what he thinks of Shiori. cool

According to Ikuhara's Adolescence of Utena commentary, he included Shiori in the movie because he "likes bad girls"...make of that what you will.


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#49 | Back to Top03-11-2009 01:37:13 PM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

'if you could have sex with any character...no i'm joking.

well, i wouldnt be able to ask one question...i'd ask at least 20

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#50 | Back to Top05-05-2009 02:37:35 AM

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Re: If you could ask Ikuhara a question, what would it be?

Did you realize that among the student council members, NOBODY is designated as the treasurer?

Was that intentional?

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