Hell yes! Finally, I hate those bastards!!!

Yes! I saw this...AWESOME. Seriously, is this really how some people want to spend their lives?

I kind of pity the younger generations in the documentary, they're so obviously brainwashed into this mode of thinking that 'fag' has almost no meaning to them except a vague descriptor for anyone not like them and thus a social threat.

Ultimately these people are a joke, we all agree to that. To me the danger is that while we roll our eyes at these crazy bastards, real actual agenda-carrying anti-gay people pay their OH THAT'S TERRIBLE lip service and quietly keep homosexuals from marrying and keep DADT as a social relic from being dumped like a used newspaper. There are actual real threats to any kind of social or religious equality and it's not these clowns.

Westboro Baptist Church: 0.
Comic con attendees: Epic.

I'm probably going to a bible-themed burlesque show on Friday featuring Black Drag Queen Disco Jesus, and the Phelpsies have threatened to protest. I plan to offer them all hugs. Or perhaps blowjobs.

LMFAO! I was actually at Comic-Con this weekend && saw this...they were there every day >___<
It's only beautiful because my gf && I walked by them holding hands xD;;

My favorite sign I saw protesting the WBC said "Optimus Prine died for your sins". Gotta love Comic-Con

Stormcrow wrote:

I'm probably going to a bible-themed burlesque show on Friday featuring Black Drag Queen Disco Jesus, and the Phelpsies have threatened to protest. I plan to offer them all hugs. Or perhaps blowjobs.

What's really sad is that after having watched the documentary on them, I totally don't hate them at all. I should, I know, but... I just can't get that worked up about a bunch of signs. I'm against people actually adopting their beliefs, yes, but...

Okay. Here's how I see it. They're honestly the kind of people that I would like to see more of. Don't lynch me, I have a point here. And that point is that regardless of who they are as people, their singlemindedness and the lengths they take their beliefs to quite frankly make them look ridiculous. And because they are made to look ridiculous, anyone who adopts their beliefs even in part is also made to look ridiculous. You hate 'fags'? Congratulations, you're just like the WBC, and everyone hates them. The comparisons are inevitable, and will necessitate people hiding their own prejudices... and in this one example, out of everything we wish would work this way and doesn't, hiding a belief set like that actually works to diminish the belief itself. If people can't say why it's wrong to hate LGBTs, they can't pass along that hatred.

This will not impact anything in the short term, but in the long run... hell, guys, I had to be told about racial stereotypes when I was 20 because no one ever talked about it. Sure, racism might have been there, but since no one could spread it, it was ineffective and essentially harmless to the next generation. I can't think of a more effective way to decrease hate-- by making it look so stupid that people can't even talk about it.

So I vote for hugs. Also I'm a big fat softie, and those girls really need hugs. Poor things, they really just want to be loved. You can just tell.

Yasha wrote:

What's really sad is that after having watched the documentary on them, I totally don't hate them at all. I should, I know, but... I just can't get that worked up about a bunch of signs. I'm against people actually adopting their beliefs, yes, but...

I felt the same way after watching the documentary. This was a while ago; maybe I should watch it again. The children, especially, I feel sympathy for; it was hearbreaking to hear the little boy try to explain in circles why he was protesting to the reporter. He did not understand what he was talking about; he just knew fags were bad. The college-aged daughters are old enough to break free of that upbringing, but I bet it was systemic, total, and brutal. They seem competent and confident in their beliefs, and they claim they were allowed to question, but I doubt this is entirely true.

Truly the greatest counter-protest in American history!

Yasha wrote:

PS: I cannot possibly be laughing harder. The Most Hated Family in America - watch it. It's a documentary about the WBC, and... I have come to the realization that these people are real life internet trolls. And we all know trolls are just another form of attention whore that feeds off hate. Make fun, not war!

Even Jesus would bitchslap that woman.

Frosty, I don't think you're alone.
It's hard to have any other feelings except for hate for a person who believes in such a negative && hateful world. It's just confusing that there is someone out there that is so angry && hateful toward the world && everything about it.
Quite the depressing existance, if you ask me...

But I agree with everyone else on the brainwashed children, has anyone ever seen Jesus Camp? It's a documentary about what it sounds like; in one scene they asked "How many of you would die for Jesus Christ?" && almost all of the children ((some looking under 5 years old)) immediately raised their hands. It just disguisted me that these children don't even get the chance to make their own decisions, they're just locked into this practice that looks exactly like a cult.
So sad DDDDD':

I don't know, that's the vibe I got off of their leader...especially when someone is saying that we're living in a doomed world. :/
But I agree, most of the others were usually out of it. They're a really complicated group to understand sometimes...
Exactly, I totally agree! Their logic makes no sense; if they want to spread "God's word", they'd be a bit more concerned that they aren't reaching out to people. Overall, I agree, selfish actions that they pass off as completely selfless. I doubt most people would live their life doing things that are completely selfless; as humans, we tend to look for the benefits that makes the action have greater purpose to us.

It really is mind-boggling, how hypocritical their actions are versus their beliefs.
It truly does seem like they are living in their own little world. What really annoys me is that they don't even listen to others! For example, when the journalist was just stating his positive view on gays && she instantly shut it out, only for us to hear a monologue of her beliefs that sounds rehearsed. You could tell the journalist wasn't too thrilled but he still listened to her words.
They say the day you stop learning is the day you die; I feel like other beliefs are included in that. By shutting them out completely, they're not only alienating themselves but stunting their growth as human beings.

Just my two cents on all of this.

But yes, owned they were! I'm glad CC stood up to them!

One of the excommunicated family members, Nate Phelps, is now an atheist, and gave a LONG AND DETAILED account of the things his father, Fred, did to his family. This is Nate's website: http://natephelps.com/10801.html

He also put a couple of angry messages sent by his family, accusing him of not being able to see the truth and being fag-enabler, on this website of his.

He mentioned that Shirley Phelps was the only one among Fred's children who DID not try to escape. Everyone else he knew had tried to run away at some point in time when they turned 18. Except Kathryn, who tried to run away when she was 17, and was thus caught and brought back to her home. http://lifewithoutfaith.com/?p=762

I don't think Fred has the time to be abusive to the newer generation of Phelps. At least, I don't think the newer generation had been abused to the extent that Nate and his siblings had. Maybe it's because now Shirley is more in charge of the household, and Fred is this guy who's sitting on his throne, not wanting to be in touch with anyone living below him. (which is probably why in that documentary, he's almost always on the second floor in his office)

What really disturbs me now is not really the preaching and protesting and picketing. It's the fact that Fred Phelps, decades and decades ago, used to be just another kid, like us. I can't imagine what he has gone through to have become the angry madman he is now. :-/

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