Damn twincest. I hate that I love it.

Tamago wrote:

Fanfiction idea.

Oooh, that sounds like fun.

How Shiori would react to that would depend, really. Is Utena her childhood friend, or have they only just met, like Wakaba and Utena did? If she had some normal friends to begin with, then she might not have turned out the way she did. But if Utena was her childhood friend, that raises an interesting case. Utena doesn't have Juri's cold and reserved personality, so she might not have such a strong suspicion that Utena is only being her friend out of pity, though the thought of it would probably cross her mind.

The way that Juri would react to having Wakaba as best friend is especially interesting, since that would be like torture for Juri. It would also be interesting to see how she would react if she was around for the whole love letter incident.

Someone should write that, but I can't. I used to write fanfictions all the time, but there was a long period of time when I wasn't able to type last summer, and so I haven't done much writing ever since. I've been meaning to get started again, but I still have the same standards for my writing as I did when I stopped, and at the moment, I can't meet those standards.

Razara wrote:

Damn twincest. I hate that I love it.

Tamago wrote:

Fanfiction idea.

Oooh, that sounds like fun.

How Shiori would react to that would depend, really. Is Utena her childhood friend, or have they only just met, like Wakaba and Utena did? If she had some normal friends to begin with, then she might not have turned out the way she did. But if Utena was her childhood friend, that raises an interesting case. Utena doesn't have Juri's cold and reserved personality, so she might not have such a strong suspicion that Utena is only being her friend out of pity, though the thought of it would probably cross her mind.

That is an important point you made there, would Shiori be happier having the princely Utena as a childhood friend instead of the cool Juri?  When you get to the subject of the duels, how would Utena get sucked into the duels this time?  Would it involve Shiori somehow? That's the kind of Utena fanfic I am looking for.

The way that Juri would react to having Wakaba as best friend is especially interesting, since that would be like torture for Juri. It would also be interesting to see how she would react if she was around for the whole love letter incident.

Yes it would be even worse for Juri to be 'in love' with Wakaba than Shiori as Wakaba's touchy-feely, pseudo-BF/GF machinations would have Juri fighting the urge to either smack her head in or ravish her senseless.  Juri would try her very best to control herself with Wakaba but I bet in those shower scenes would involve less crying and more moaning.

Both Wakaba and Shiori represent examples of 'normal girls' in SKU but oddly enough, they are never compared to each other in any way, in the story or even in essays that I have noticed, I wonder why that is?

I am sure that the IRG members could unveil many similarities and differences between Shiori and Wakaba but the most notable is how they handle hanging around a very popular friend.

Wakaba seems to basks in Utena’s light while Shiori feels that it leaves her in the shadows.

Last edited by Tamago (02-10-2007 09:02:37 PM)

85,000 words in one chapter? It's not fair. I got a repetitive stress injury from typing 4,000 words less than that over the summer.

Tamago wrote:

Both Wakaba and Shiori represent examples of 'normal girls' in SKU but oddly enough, they are never compared to each other in any way, in the story or even in essays that I have noticed, I wonder why that is?

Originally, I was going to drag a comparison between Shiori and Wakaba into my essay on Shiori, but I still wasn't feeling well at the time, and so I didn't feel like going over all of it in my head.

They're both normal girls who want to be special, which raises the question as to why they turned out so differently. The main difference is in how long they've been friends with them. Shiori and Juri grew up together, whereas Utena and Wakaba have only been friends for a year or so. (Wait. Have they, or am I just assuming this from the manga...?) Before she met Utena, we can assume that Wakaba was friends with normal people who blended in with the crowd, just as she did. It wasn't until she befriended Utena that people started to notice her more often. She didn't mind being known as, "Utena's friend," just as long as she was known as something.

Shiori, on the other hand, grew up with Juri. Rather than feeling as though Juri was what made her shine, she felt as though Juri was what prevented her from shining. She does not want to be known as, "Juri's friend." She wants people to notice her for who she is, and not for who she's friends with. In the sense that Wakaba felt that she could only shine as long as she had Saionji, Shiori didn't think that there was really any way that someone as ordinary as herself could be noticed.

OH WHY ARE YOU SO AWESOME. D8

My Utena fan fiction is here.

http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memori … filter=all

I have also written several crossovers, mostly with Firefly.  They can be found here:

http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memori … filter=all

Long, long ago in a state of fangirliness far, far away.

I know I've at least got at least a few readers of my "Purple Rose Saga" and "Ecchi Adventures" fics around the forum somewhere. Purple Rose Saga is finished, I believe, but Ecchi Adventures is not, and you can find them floating on my old website and on FFN. They're full of deliberate terrible Mary Sue-ness, fangirl Japanese, and intentional OOC-ness. I can't say they're... well... good, by any stretch of the imagination, but they sure are silly fun, and I have great memories of writing those things.

I've moved on to my own original fiction though.

In Twelve Days of Courtship Tohubohu wrote:

"You never talk about it," Sei said thoughtfully. "Does one think less about high school as one gets older?"
"I've always thought about it as little as I could," Juri replied.

and

"So," Sei said after a moment of watching her, "what happened to your Shiori?"
Juri looked up sharply from the empty cup. Sei met her gaze evenly, and finally, Juri looked back at the tabletop. "She became a bitch. I'm sure."

Nice snappy lines. Well I don't like crossovers you know. And I don't have a clue who or what MariMite is but...
Amazingly I liked this...

So it must be written well! Yep, I enjoyed it. I liked your Juri, and it IS nice to read some non-angst re her once in awhile.
Have you written any more Utena fic? Where should I look?

Last edited by sharnii (09-03-2008 06:54:03 AM)

Doesn't look like anyone has added on to this in awhile. The only fic I've published was a spur of the moment drabble over in the unlikely pairings thread (I really gotta figure out how to make links). But I'd really like to do some soley sku Akio related drabbles.

@ gorgeousshutin
I do actually have a bit more written, just have to figure out how to make it all fit together. It's my one true weakness.

crystalwren wrote:

All in all, I'm genuinely conflicted about that drabble I wrote years back. I put it up on AO3 for gorgeousshutin, but the very fact that it exists just rubs me up the wrong way.

And I am honored.

If it makes you feel any better, that Shiori/Kozue gem rubbed me up in all the right ways.

About the fanfic thing, I myself see vast opportunities for new grounds to be covered in (reasonably well-written) SKU post-series fics, because it fascinates me to speculate on just what kind of adults that melodramatic, edgy bunch of kids would grow up to be.  Adolescence is a time where people have but limited knowledge of the world; it is how people are as adults - who've already had considerable life experience in the world - that can truly define what kind of characters they really are.

What I see as the true problem with writing SKU fics is that the fandom is small enough as it is, and a that good chunk of it is skeptical of reading fanfics (they have good reasons to, as nothing can compare with the real thing) thus why the low-numbered reviews most SKU works tend to get (though there are a few titles of legendary popularity amongst them still).

As for NGE, I think Rebuild 3.0's reportedly disastrous plot line do support your theory that Eva's is one difficult (if not impossible) story to continue well.

It won't stop me from continuing World End's Messiah though (which, I heard, is like only the 3rd SKU/NGE fic known to the Net even after all these years).

Last edited by gorgeousshutin (11-17-2012 09:41:48 PM)

ArthurianRoseKnight wrote:

I've been having this weird idea of setting Utena in a historical/mythical/fantastic setting, but other than that I haven't been able to elaborate more on it sadly

Well, based on your username and a thought that's been rolling about in my head, have you considered using them in an Arthurian setting? Anthy makes an excellent Morgaine Le Fay.

gorgeousshutin wrote:

What I see as the true problem with writing SKU fics is that the fandom is small enough as it is, and a that good chunk of it is skeptical of reading fanfics (they have good reasons to, as nothing can compare with the real thing) thus why the low-numbered reviews most SKU works tend to get (though there are a few titles of legendary popularity amongst them still).

I think one thing that'd keep me from writing SKU fanfic if I was a fanfic-author in the first place, is that SKU being as symbolic/allegorical as it is, I would be worried about being true to the message of the show. I was thinking earlier how a SKU-inspired RP could be fun if I had a friend to do it with, but then I would feel bad for just going wild with the elements from the show (magical swords, etc) without any regard for the symbolism.

Maybe a bit silly to worry about, because usually I would just worry about writing the canon characters IC, but there you go.