I dunno about you guys, but I STILL haven't gotten over Sirius Black being killed.

TT___TT

I personally only like Snape for one reason and one reason only...

Alan Rickman.

And don't deny it.  You love it to.

Mmm, yes, that's one of the reasons, Hya.

I do not think that Dumbledore is coming back. In a few interviews, she has stated that he is dead, dead, dead, and he is not alive anywhere, and no, he isn't coming back. I really don't think that she'd say all that just to say, "OOP, FOOL'D U!!" and have the opposite happen. I do like Mocha's theory, though, as it is something that she would do.

guardian_rose wrote:

JK does not want anyone to write any profitable HP books later. the only way to accomplish this is to kill harry. thats it.

She has the legal rights to the series and the characters, especially Harry himself. No one can legally write anything in HP Canon without her consent so she doesn't need to kill off a character to make sure they don't appear in someone else's work.

Besides which, this is a series about magic. Even if Harry died, anyone could just magicks! him back to life again. Or write about characters and advance which occur parallel to the original series, making lots of room for scenes involving Harry which wouldn't have been reflected in the original works due to their unimportance to those stories. etc. etc.

And while I don't know Rowling, I'd like to think she wouldn't kill off a character just for the sake of spiting hopeful cash-ins.

Predictions: I've been making this since before reading the sixth book, and I believe I've mentioned it on this forum at one point, too. Snape is going to pull a Vader.

Ragnarok wrote:

Predictions: I've been making this since before reading the sixth book, and I believe I've mentioned it on this forum at one point, too. Snape is going to pull a Vader.

...He's Harry's father?

I KNEW EET.

Ragnarok wrote:

Besides which, this is a series about magic. Even if Harry died, anyone could just magicks! him back to life again.

Well, it's been made pretty clear that death is irreversible, but I agree with your central point.  Rowling won't kill Harry just to stop other authors from writing about him.  (I still think she'll kill Harry, but not for that reason.)

Tamago wrote:

Even if Dumbledore doesn't come back to life, he could still show up in book 7 as either a ghost or maybe he left a piece of himself somewhere. (After all thats what Voldemort did a few times eg; the Riddle Diary)

Yes, but Dumbledore himself calls Horcruxes vile, and says the fragmentation of the soul is something only the darkest mage would contemplate; they are a banned subject at Hogwarts.  I guess we can't rule out his coming back as a ghost -- do we ever learn why Nearly Headless Nick and the rest came back? -- but it strikes me as unlikely.

Ragnarok wrote:

(I also wouldn't be surprised if the prophecy in Order of the Phoenix turns out to be a load. And someone will say to Harry "Oh, didn't you know? Those prophecies are only ever potential absolute truth, you can always change them!")

I think Dumbledore has already said something pretty similar to that   Along the lines of "this prophecy wouldn't have come true, except that Voldemort heard of it, and by his actions, he made it come true."  That said, the only way for the prophecy to be proven false would be for Harry, Neville, and Voldemort to all survive Book 7, and what are the odds of that?

Last edited by satyreyes (07-19-2007 07:00:14 PM)

Sevelle is going to put in his three cents:

Snape is such a bad person. He's two timing both Dumbledore and Voldemort. Dumbledore’s greatest weakness is he trusts people way too much. He did after all let the imposter Moody slip Harry’s name into the Gobelt of Fire, which sent Harry on a merry little trip to death. And it is evident that Snape is a great Occulemense, since Voldemort has yet to send him to the land of the dead.

Maybe he wants unlimited power like Voldemort? Or to finally get back at James through Harry.

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I still think Snape is in it for his own gains. I mean who carries on a grudge for so long, that they pass it on to the son?

(Don't answer that.)

satyreyes wrote:

I guess we can't rule out his coming back as a ghost -- do we ever learn why Nearly Headless Nick and the rest came back? -- but it strikes me as unlikely.

I hear this theory a lot and it pisses me off to no end. Not to say you've pissed me off, bebe, but the people that don't take into account Dumbledore's basic personality and preach this as the Gospel Truth and Something That Will Happen Damn You.

Nick says in the end of 5 -right around when Harry finds Sirius' mirror- that the reason he and others come back as ghosts is basically because they're afraid of death and what might come after. Sirius won't come back because he's pretty much fearless. Reckless, is a better word, in my opinion, but still. Dumbledore might be afraid of some things, but I don't think death is one of them -after all, doesn't he say "To the organized mind, death is simply the next great adventure." Dumbledore is nothing if not highly organized.

Grawr. I need munchies.

morosemocha wrote:

satyreyes wrote:

I guess we can't rule out his coming back as a ghost -- do we ever learn why Nearly Headless Nick and the rest came back? -- but it strikes me as unlikely.

I hear this theory a lot and it pisses me off to no end. Not to say you've pissed me off, bebe, but the people that don't take into account Dumbledore's basic personality and preach this as the Gospel Truth and Something That Will Happen Damn You.

Who is bebe?  Is that me?  I am four-square against the ghost hypothesis!

m&m wrote:

Nick says in the end of 5 -right around when Harry finds Sirius' mirror- that the reason he and others come back as ghosts is basically because they're afraid of death and what might come after.

I'd forgotten about Nick's explanation.  Now I am five-square against the ghost hypothesis!

guardian_rose wrote:

i do believe that an author only has legal rights to their works for a certain period of time before the need for renewal.

I don't know what the law is like in Britain, but in America, copyright persists for seventy years after the author's death.  If British law protects copyright for even a fraction as long, Rowling has no need to worry about anyone resurrecting Harry in her lifetime -- unless, of course, someone resurrects Rowling.

satyreyes wrote:

Copyright

Be that as it may, but it certainly doesn't stop people from making and even publishing fanfics. Nobody has control over that, do they???

In any case, I don't necessarily think James is an all round good person even as an adult. I think he's very kind to Lily and Harry, but I bet he's still the same James as he was back in school days when he's with Sirius and Lupin.

As far as Snape is concerned, in my opinion, I've always felt that his betrayal was a bit sudden since he just sort of confessed about working for Voldemort toward the beginning of book 6.

I don't think Rowling is going to calculate the worries of copyright infringement into her actual writing of the book, but I still think Harry could be killed because, like Satyreyes said, that's nearly the only way the deaths would balance the sides of good and evil; unless, Snape was made into a tragic hero - by explaining his selfless motives and then giving him a martyr's death. That could go either way. It has to be one of the two main subjects, I don't think we're going to be let off with a side character. 

Last night, I called my Harry Potter friend and said, "What are the chances of myself being able to swipe a book at the release?"
Excellent, I have a spare ticket. We will be dressing up - will you be participating?
"Sure. I do happen to have black cape in my wardrobe." (true, completes the VAMPIRE look)
That won't do. We'll need to get you in a tie, matching the color of the House that you wish to represent. Meet with me in the morning and we'll transfer an emblem of the same house onto a shirt for you as well!
"How's about Hufflepuff?" (intentional irritant - because they are Slytherins)
I would be very disappointed with your choice.
“All righty then. I’ll take one Gryffindor, please!”

So it’s settled! Tonight, I’m gonna bring my camera and take pictures of all the lines of Potter fans! I swore I wouldn’t, but I just can’t pass up an evening of dressing up and waiting for something that makes everyone excited! It’s why I love Christmas shopping!