Saito Hoshikawa wrote:

Opening notes: There's something up about that extra panel for the final song of Harley's dance. From playing DRR myself, I know that different difficulties add more arrows/steps into the step chart, and some songs add multiple arrows into a chain sequence, so there's that as something of usefulness? (Not really.)

Not only that, but four arrows in one line was hard enough unless you cheated with a hand controller.

I'd think there's a hidden message in there, but that extra panel issue makes that pretty impossible.

I wouldn't think that they're specific step charts to certain songs, because most charts don't use four steps simultaneously, even with certain obstacles set.

Unless DDR has changed significantly in recent years, it never uses 3 or 4 arrows in a single action. It's always limited to two. The object of the game was to always use your feet, not your hands and feet. Some dancers would use hands for style, but using three or four pressure pads at the same time was never a requirement. This was standard from the first DDR up until about Supernova 2, which was the last incarnation I played.

In The Groove (rip-off clone), or  Pump It Up (five pad game), on the other hand, don't necessarily follow the same conventions.

Last edited by Ashnod (09-11-2012 08:58:27 AM)

Dazmi wrote:

Custom chart!

Red = 4th
Blue = 8th
Purple = 12th
Yellow = 16th
Pink = 24th
Light Blue = 48th
Green = 64th

Probably doesn`t help at all, but you gotta throw what you got. I just couldn`t help but notice that they were all red notes. Maybe the BPM is really fast or something.

Also, in stepmania I remember something along the lines of "invisible notes". I mean, if that`s worth mentioning.

The video you're referencing is from In The Groove and not DDR. The color of the notes may not be a factor if the riddle is strictly meant to work off DDR.

Some interesting ideas so far!    Here are three questions that might help you think in the right direction; I guarantee that exactly two of them are useful.

* [Why are the arrows red?]
* [Are there any systematic differences among the five songs?]
* [How many movement groups does Harley have?]

The arrows are red because the steps are wrong! So, do we match up the steps between us and Harley and find out which steps are out. Like in song one, the entire line is out. We have L,U,D and she has R? or maybe in that second grouping, its L+D, because we've stepped Right and she stepped Up...?

Melancholic_Soul wrote:

I just noticed that the first song only has one move per movement group, whereas song two has two or more.

[Interesting observation!  Are there any other patterns or anomalies within either of those songs?]

Y'all are ready to crack parts of this one pretty fast -- but first you'll have to figure out [what a movement group means].  To that end, may I suggest you answer the final question I asked earlier?

[26 is an interesting number.]

You've set yourself up for the big Aha, M_S!  You just need to combine two of your observations:

- [Each movement group could be a letter in a code];
- [Song 2 uses only two symbols: left arrows and right arrows].

Can you think of any [other codes that use only two symbols]?

Atropos wrote:

Is it morse code?
Harley's is FGHIJ, which makes our F _ _ _ _.

Fill in those blanks!   You don't need to find a match among Harley's moves, because [you know the rule: Song 2 is Morse code].

On an unrelated note, [Harley's Song 2 is FGHIJ, of all things].  That's suggestive.  I wonder what her other songs could be.

Last edited by satyreyes (09-17-2012 05:40:47 PM)

Yup!  Five down, nineteen to go. 

You've already discovered that each movement group encodes a letter -- but you've only found the trick to Song 2 (Morse code).  As I once recommended in the Two-Face riddle, put yourself in the puzzle constructor's shoes.  What other ways can you think of to use DDR arrows to encode letters?

Here's a push.  If I had wanted to make this puzzle a little easier, I could have given the songs names.  Here's what I might have named them:

Song 1: [The Computer's Song]
Song 2: [The Telegraph Operator's Song]
Song 3: [The Mapmaker's Song]
Song 4: [The Fingerpainter's Song]
Song 5: [The Sailor's Song]

Last edited by satyreyes (09-22-2012 04:06:42 PM)

Crystalline_Dream wrote:

So Song 1 is in binary code?

Try it and see!