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#1 | Back to Top10-27-2007 02:26:03 PM

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The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Okay, it seems that anytime someone mentions a Sailor Moon character anywhere, we tend to totally wander off the original point. So, I'm making this thread. emot-tongue

Feel free to discuss favorite characters, fanfiction, things you don't remember about the plot because you haven't watched it in YEARS, et cetera.


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#2 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:05:09 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Oh, great, I'm already watching Sherlock Holmes and Chess simultaneously. Now I want to go to crunchyroll.com and watch PGSM, too. emot-tongue

Seriously, though, I only got to SKU through BSSM, and I still love that crazy damn show, flaws and all. I was a crazy-ass Minako fangirl from the start, although I was also in love with Zoisite. Speaking of which, my iTunes is being scary again and just randomly came up with a song I used to listen to while reading Wildflowers. Anyone else remember that fic? Epic, mad, and very, very odd. I couldn't stop reading. Until I did. Um. school-devil Too much character assassination for me by the end of it all, but damn, it was the first epic fanfic I ever read and I'll always have a curious fondness for it because of that. emot-redface


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#3 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:14:25 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

OMG Chess awesome.

I really tried to get into Sailor Moon and I will definitely try again. The problem I had was I started from the beginning and there are so many filler episodes that I just had a hard time watching it. I think I got up to episode 15. D: I like the character designs, I love Magical Girl stuff, but it was just SO MUCH FILLER. Any suggestions? :/

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#4 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:49:05 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Chess is on DVD??? Where have I been? emot-frown

Anyway getting on topic...

Emiemipoemi there are a lot of filler episodes long running series tend to have them enmasse but I swear it's worth trying to trudge through them for the complete story. If anything I think if you wanted you could just try starting where things get really interesting with Sailor Moon S. At least there you have the new and (OMG they really are gay can't believe the English tried to make the "cousins") Sailor Senshi (Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus).


Sailor Moon is really interesting to watch in Japanese. If one ignores the dub life is better all around. If one reads the manga life is also slightly better.

Despite my feelings towards the dub I do have a soft spot for the female version of Zoicite though everything about that characters becomes ten times funnier when he's a flaming queen. I'm just sayin'...

I think Sailor Moon starts people talking because for many anime fans it was the first thing they new as anime, and being a fan fic writer it was the first series I had ever even considered writing fan fiction for.

My favorite character is Sailor Pluto (Setsuna). And my favorite pairing is Sailor Pluto and Queen Serenity (Sailor Moon's mom).

There are a lot of areas to explore within the boundries of Sailor Moon with reincarnation, and the effects of remembering one's past life. They way the Senshi's powers line up to to the planets they are named for, and that astrologically and mythicly characters seem to come together in interesting ways.


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#5 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:51:58 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

I was hoping one of these would come along soon. emot-smile

The first time I ever saw Sailormoon was when it used to coem on Cartoon Network, and I was in the 3rd grade or something. From the start, I adored Makoto, because she looked and acted like me. (When I was little, I was instantly drawn to characters with brown hair and green eyes, because I was convinced we looked alike. I was a tomboy, too, so it sealed the deal for me). As I got older and started loving anime, I never gave up on BSSM. Hotaru became my new favorite, simply because she was badass yet so... delicate. I don't know, I just liked her scythe. Nowadays, I'm pretty into Minako. I'll admit, it's mainly because I think that Minako and Rei make such a good couple. I like Rei, but for some reason I still don't really care for her on her own sometimes. Maybe I've reversed from when I was young, and I now shy away from characters who look like me. I'm also madly in love with Galaxia, and I've never given up on her as I have with a few other characters.


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#6 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:53:00 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Emiemipoemi wrote:

OMG Chess awesome.

I really tried to get into Sailor Moon and I will definitely try again. The problem I had was I started from the beginning and there are so many filler episodes that I just had a hard time watching it. I think I got up to episode 15. D: I like the character designs, I love Magical Girl stuff, but it was just SO MUCH FILLER. Any suggestions? :/

I would suggest starting with episode 34.  Why?  Because it's where the plot of the first season actually starts.  It's a 2-parter, and even without any previous knowledge of the series, it might be enough to drag you in.  That was my very first episode back during its USA Network run in 1997.  It already has all of the Inner Senshi introduced, so you don't have to deal with episode upon episode with just Usagi or Usagi and Ami (love Ami, but love her more when there are more people to play off of).  Granted, there is filler after that point, but I thought it was enjoyable filler as it includes episodes for each of the individual girls.

Others might suggest starting with an entirely different season, but I really think the classic episodes provide the best introduction, and then skip to the "good" seasons if you like (personally, I loved every season but SuperS, and even it had its moments.)

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#7 | Back to Top10-27-2007 03:55:20 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Sailor Moon was one of my gateways to anime.  It was the now infamous DiC dub on Toonami, and even before that when it was on syndicated TV after school.  So, this series is full of nostalgia for me. emot-dance

Favorite characters:
Hotaru - I sense there are many Hotaru fans here, so I don't think any explanation is necessary. cool
Ami - She's smart and cute.  Win win!
Mako - She's the one I was drawn to first, and still one of my favorites.
Luna - Kitty!  And I named my cat Luna after the one in the anime.

And yeah, I'm also a fan of the whole Ami/Mako thing. emot-biggrin

My favorite season is Sailor Moon S, and this was before I knew of Utena and Ikuhara's genius.  It's such a dark season, and has a great cast with Michiru, Haruka, and Hotaru added to the mix.  Professor Tomoe (those reflective glasses and Cheshire Cat smile) and his assistants were also great.  Playing Twister on the job? Hee hee...

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#8 | Back to Top10-27-2007 04:24:47 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Emiemipoemi wrote:

OMG Chess awesome.

I really tried to get into Sailor Moon and I will definitely try again. The problem I had was I started from the beginning and there are so many filler episodes that I just had a hard time watching it. I think I got up to episode 15. D: I like the character designs, I love Magical Girl stuff, but it was just SO MUCH FILLER. Any suggestions? :/

I have never had much patience for Chess before, but this version amuses me. emot-dance

As for the filler...ah, well, that's where I get irritated with it, too. It's like Rurouni Kenshin; if they ditched all the filler and tightened the narrative flow, it would make a good thing utterly fantastic. About all I can say is that you just sort of have to sit through them, because they do tend to say SOMETHING interesting about a certain character, even if it doesn't directly impact the narrative arc of the story. With that said, PGSM doesn't have filler episodes in the same way because it is much shorter, and I really liked that aspect of it. But...yeah. It depends, really. My favourite season is the first, followed by the third and then the second, but they all have filler episodes that make you bang your head against the wall (the second is particularly bad for it, but the first season has two runs of filler episodes (only Zoisite's main villain arc escapes it to a large degree) and the third is fairly similar). But...I do love this crazy show. etc-love


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#9 | Back to Top10-27-2007 04:26:22 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Cerise wrote:

That was my very first episode back during its USA Network run in 1997.

Holy crap, someone else remembered when it was on USA! What was sad is that USA even edited the overedited DiC version.

Now, who remembers when it was on FOX? That's the challenge.

Oh, and I'm a Sailor Pluto fan myself, though I related a lot to Mercury.

And if you're going to watch from the beginning, make absolutely sure to skip episodes 47-60. Nothing that happens in the Makaiju/Doom Tree Arc will affect anything in the rest of the series. It only exists because the manga needed time to catch up to the anime.

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#10 | Back to Top10-27-2007 04:33:33 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

I remember when I was in 6th grade and I watched it on tv EVERYDAY after having to sit through Hawaii 5.0.

I HATED that show. I hate it to this day because I had to sit through it to get to SM.

Fave character?

I couldn't even pick one. I think it kept changing the older I got.

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#11 | Back to Top10-27-2007 04:35:21 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

...sweet merciful crap, I started watching that show (the DiC version) when I was fourteen. I am almost twenty-six now, so...HOLY SHIT. Must have been around 1994? I was in the fourth form at school, so... [counts on fingers] No, actually, must have been 1996. Phew. I feel...er, slightly better. emot-tongue (But then, I've liked SKU since 1999, so...old hag, that's me!)

Random fact: I liked Mina (yes, referring to the English dub) before I even saw her. In the English dub they have a crappy theme song (which I am known to listen to upon occasion, along with that cracktastic Rainy Day Man one) which lists the "scouts" one by one. I started watching from Amy's introduction (my sister asked me to watch the show in order to translate some written Japanese for her, but as I was only fluent in two of the three alphabets and had a crappy vocabulary THAT went down a treat emot-gonk), but when I saw the actual opening credits the next day I said: "Who's the blonde chick, I like her?" My sister said she wasn't around, as far as she knew, and that she wanted to see Jupiter. Oddly enough, Mina and Lita really did stick as our respective favourite characters...especially once we saw the original Japanese version, too. etc-loveetc-loveetc-love Damn, all this BSSM love is making me want to go back to the fic I half-wrote and keep getting asked to finish. Argh! And NaNo is starting! [head in hands]


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#12 | Back to Top10-27-2007 05:56:36 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Raven Nightshade wrote:

Cerise wrote:

That was my very first episode back during its USA Network run in 1997.

Holy crap, someone else remembered when it was on USA! What was sad is that USA even edited the overedited DiC version.

Episode 34 aired on July 29, 1997.  I even know that much! emot-keke  I remember that a friend of mine told me I should watch Sailor Moon because I was talking about Speed Racer and Voltron.  She mentioned that it was going to be airing on USA.  That was in January or so of 1997.  Flash forward to July 29th when we were waiting for my mom to finish getting ready so we could take our exchange student to the airport.  emot-frown  I flipped on the television and saw "Sailor Moon" and thought, "Hey, that's what she told me to watch!"  At which point our exchange student leapt to her feet and yelled "Sailor Moon!!!"  Apparently, she was also a fan.

It was love at first sight, as I never, ever had seen anything like it.  When I started taping R, I would rewind "Serena's" transformation and watch it over and over again (yeah...now I fastforward.)  There wasn't a single thing about it I didn't love.  Except for Raye, she was a hag.

Just thinking about it gives me warm fuzzies all over again...

My Senshi Ranking:

1. Makoto
2. Minako
3. Haruka
3. Hotaru
3. Ami
3. Setsuna
4. Michiru
5. Usagi
6. Rei
7. Chibiusa

Yeah, I love Ami/Haruka/Hotaru/Setsuna pretty much all the same.  Michiru is just a breath away from being tied for number 3 as well.

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#13 | Back to Top10-27-2007 06:19:53 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Cerise wrote:

It was love at first sight, as I never, ever had seen anything like it.  When I started taping R, I would rewind "Serena's" transformation and watch it over and over again (yeah...now I fastforward.)  There wasn't a single thing about it I didn't love.  Except for Raye, she was a hag.

Quoted for truth. I really didn't like Raye, whereas I liked Rei a little more...and then PGSM ate my brain. Heh heh heh. emot-redface And yes, I wonder how I ever watched all those transformations over and over, whereas now I can't stand the damn things. emot-tongue Also, I agree on the "never seen anything quite like it;" the closest I saw to it at the time was Disney's Gargoyles, which actually had a coherent storyline you were expected to follow. Being a book-whore, I was all about stories that go on and on and reward you for it. And still am, really.

My Senshi Ranking:

1. Minako
2. Hotaru
3. Haruka
4. Rei
5. Ami
6. Setsuna
7. Makoto
8. Usagi
9. Michiru
10. ChibiUsa

Yeah, I love the crazy blonde, the pseudo-goth, and the butch lesbian. Not that that's the only way to characterise them, but it pleases me to do so. It scares people who haven't a clue what I'm on about when I tell them so, you see. school-devil


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#14 | Back to Top10-27-2007 06:41:12 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Middle of the first season is a good place to start, if you ask me, perhaps right when Makoto is introduced.  (Epsiode 25) You really haven't missed much of the plot at that point, and enough characters are in play to keep it from being all about Usagi, but you'll have some episodes before getting thrown into things.

And yes, the filler.  Let's be honest, Sailor Moon is not great anime.  There are plenty of flaws to it, and pacing is one of them, but the characters are the kind that just stick with you.  For me, this show has always been about characters.  You'll see one on a poster or ad years later and get warm fuzzy feelings, like you've just bumped into an old friend.

Since it seems to be in style, my ranking:

1. Ami
2. Hotaru - this one kinda snuck up on me
3. Makoto
4. Minako
5. Haruka & Michiru
6. Usagi
7. Setsuna
8. Rei
9. Mamoru
10. Chibi-Usa

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#15 | Back to Top10-27-2007 06:42:58 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

While I spend a *lot* of time whining about what I dislike about Sailor Moon I really do love the series as a whole. I was simpy crazy about it when it came out and sat through the Portuguese dub like there was no tomorrow. Unfortunately, I still cannot see Zoisite as a guy. I know he is supposed to be one but all those years of thinking otherwise force me to make an effort to get the gender right.

My raking:
1.Michiru
2.Hotaru
3.Haruka
4.Setsuna
5.Rei
6.Makoto
7.Minako
8.Ami
9.Usagi

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#16 | Back to Top10-27-2007 07:05:17 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

All the cool people are doing it!

My ranking:

1 Minako
2 Seiya - he always made me laugh X3
3 Haruka
4 Usagi
5 Helios
6 Rei
7 Setsuna
8 Artemis
9 Luna
10 Yaten Kou
11 Michiru
12 Hotaru
13 Ami
14 Makoto
15 Mamoru
4578 Chibi-Usa

I love 1 - 12 and it was really hard to put them in a list!

13 - 15 I'm just sort of ambivalent about.

Anyone is better than Chibi-Usa.

Edit: I forgot Kaitou Ace! ..wow.. He's numbah 1.5 X3

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#17 | Back to Top10-27-2007 07:38:28 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Nocturnalux wrote:

Unfortunately, I still cannot see Zoisite as a guy. I know he is supposed to be one but all those years of thinking otherwise force me to make an effort to get the gender right.

I didn't know Zoisite was a guy until someone who read the manga told me. Even then, I found myself preferring female Zoisite, who I call Zoycite because of the dub. Her death scene was one of the few scenes that makes me cry.


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#18 | Back to Top10-27-2007 08:33:18 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

You know, I never really could get into the Starlights.  I liked Seiya fairly well (which surprised me), but Yaten and Taiki were just a bit too mean in my opinion.

Taiki = Johnny Weir.  Particularly when he's doing his Swan Lake performance with his hair all slicked back and wearing a red swan glove named Camille.  I'm serious, he's Taiki!!

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#19 | Back to Top10-27-2007 08:51:34 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

Cerise wrote:

You know, I never really could get into the Starlights.  I liked Seiya fairly well (which surprised me), but Yaten and Taiki were just a bit too mean in my opinion.

Taiki = Johnny Weir.  Particularly when he's doing his Swan Lake performance with his hair all slicked back and wearing a red swan glove named Camille.  I'm serious, he's Taiki!!

^ We both spent the whole of the last Winter Olympics going on about this.

Poor Taiki, ever since Ami turned him down in favor of Makoto, he just hasn't quite been right in the head.

At some point Cerise and I should compile all the Ami/Makoto evidence we've gathered from the first two seasons and post it up here.  We went into our last rewatch joking about looking for it, since we put it into play in our stories, but when it seriously started turning up, well, it quit being a joke after a while.  It's either one of the most beautifully subtle character developments I've ever seen... or I'm just reading too much into things and it's one huge coincidence.

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#20 | Back to Top10-27-2007 10:00:10 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

My god, Chibiusa just gets no love, does she? Except from her numerous preadolescent beaus.

And yay for the Starlights, although they suffer somewhat from being the Outer Senshi II: Electric Boogaloo (strange powerful new ends-justify-the-means Senshi who may or may not be allies? Never seen that before!). I love their complete unconcern with gender. Seiya is masculine, and Yaten's kind of girly, and Taiki just comes across as awesomely asexual, but they never seem to be concerned in the slightest over whether they're male or female at any given time. They're like the anti-Ranmas. And nobody else bats an eye when they find out about their true identities, either (even Usagi, who has been hit on by Seiya for some time). I think only Kakyuu even mentions it in the slightest...

My first cosplay was school-uniform Taiki. emot-keke

Speaking of the Starlights, I'm pretty fond of the Sailor Animamates (and use them as my MSTing crew). As the series goes along (particularly starting with S), I feel like the villain sub-generals get progressively more endearing - it's one of the things the anime just beats out the manga on, hands-down. etc-love

Paradox wrote:

And yes, the filler.  Let's be honest, Sailor Moon is not great anime.  There are plenty of flaws to it, and pacing is one of them, but the characters are the kind that just stick with you.  For me, this show has always been about characters.  You'll see one on a poster or ad years later and get warm fuzzy feelings, like you've just bumped into an old friend.

True on all fronts! Sailor Moon's great strength is that it has an awesome cast of characters. They avoid being stereotypical because they're the ones who set a lot of the stereotypes, and they approach archetypal. In Sailor Moon fanfiction, I'm always impressed by the range of ways each of them can be approached... and it's not because they're undefined, it's because they all have different aspects that can be worked with.

Oh, and speaking of fanfiction and Ami/Mako conjecture, check out this fanfic, probably the only non-disturbing thing Jon Carp has ever written (okay, "Showerbrooding" too). The Sailor Moon supporting cast is under appreciated, I think. emot-smile

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/871054/1/Th … Make_Sense

Emiemipoemi wrote:

I really tried to get into Sailor Moon and I will definitely try again. The problem I had was I started from the beginning and there are so many filler episodes that I just had a hard time watching it. I think I got up to episode 15. D: I like the character designs, I love Magical Girl stuff, but it was just SO MUCH FILLER. Any suggestions? :/

Last year, my friend and I interspersed watching Serial Experiments Lain with a just-the-highlights viewing of Sailor Moon S (you know, to dilute the Lain-ness), and I think it's a successful strategy. Sailor Moon filler gets more bearable as the series goes along, but still, you just can't watch that much of it at one time...

Anyway, for season 1, you could try watching just episodes 1, 8, 10, 13, 14, 23, 24, 25, 27, 32, 33, 34 (alternately, all of 25-34, which I think is a pretty good mini-arc), (35, maybe?), 36, 41, (42?), 43, 44, 45, 46. That cuts the long and slow first season down to a much more reasonable length. If you're moving beyond plot highlights, be sure to hit episode 6, the first Ikuhara-directed episode and in my opinion the neatest of the Usagi-only episodes; and episode 31, featuring the best one-shot character of all time (thanks again, episode director Ikuhara!). Or I agree, just starting at 25 isn't a bad plan either.

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#21 | Back to Top10-27-2007 10:34:14 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

I don't really have solid enough preferences to rank the cast in order, but I have to join everyone in not liking Chibi-Usa. I have to admit, though, that she's a pretty spot-on depiction of a spoiled kid.

I like Zoicite better as a flaming queen - and Kunzite really did love him.


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#22 | Back to Top10-27-2007 11:22:04 PM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

The whole Chibi-Usa and Pegasus thing in SuperS still kinda creeps me out... emot-gonk

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#23 | Back to Top10-28-2007 06:24:07 AM

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Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

ShatteredMirror wrote:

I don't really have solid enough preferences to rank the cast in order, but I have to join everyone in not liking Chibi-Usa. I have to admit, though, that she's a pretty spot-on depiction of a spoiled kid.

I like Zoicite better as a flaming queen - and Kunzite really did love him.

I liked ChibiUsa a lot better than Reenie, I must say. I tended to laugh whenever anything horrible happened to Reenie, and got sulky whenever she was rescued. Particularly from Rubeus. He always struck me as a sadist, he could have dealt with her. school-devil

I loved Zoisite, both female and male versions -- but I tend towards the male version, because I adore his voice. He is such a little queen! (Plus it's particularly amusing to watch the episode with Umino and Zoisite, given it's the same voice actor for both.) Kunzite and Zoisite were my first real fictional same-sex couple, and to this day I occasionally go out hunting for fic on them. Not a lot of it about -- I don't think there ever really was -- but I adored whatever I got my wee hands on. I even tried to write it, but my writing was awful and I never got far. I was just a creepy fangirl reader on that front. etc-love


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#24 | Back to Top10-28-2007 09:11:19 AM

Paradox
Winning Love By Daylight
From: Indianapolis, IN
Registered: 07-13-2007
Posts: 343

Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

ShatteredMirror wrote:

I don't really have solid enough preferences to rank the cast in order, but I have to join everyone in not liking Chibi-Usa. I have to admit, though, that she's a pretty spot-on depiction of a spoiled kid.

I agree with that.  Honestly, while I dislike Chibi-Usa, it isn't intense hatred.  As a character she's fairly believable in R.  She's a bright but bratty kid.  She does a lot of things that seem stupid to us, but she's what, 6?  She's intelligent enough that she generally seems older, but now and then, she thinks and acts like a 6 year old.

What I loathe is the Chibi-Usa Effect, where whenever she shows up, Usagi regresses in maturity by about four to five years.  It pretty much wrecks large parts of SuperS, which outside of Usagi & Chibi-Usa is a rather harmless little diversion between the more serious S and Stars.

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#25 | Back to Top10-28-2007 09:19:42 AM

Mylene
Fighting Evil By Moonlight
From: Next to Paradox
Registered: 10-19-2006
Posts: 3704

Re: The All-Encompassing Sailor Moon Thread

...I love the filler episodes!  I love the filler episodes more than the plot itself, usually.  Okay, I should clarify.  I love filler episodes when they focus on characters other than Usagi, and said characters are not in the series simply for the sake of that episode.  I mean, maybe that isn't quite the "filler filler" everyone is hating, but it still typically isn't advancing the plot in anyway, it's just giving more information about the characters.  Aside from some of the ending plot episodes (45 and 46, etc.) my favorites are when they focus on a Senshi or perhaps even Naru, and just have fun.  But I love Sailor Moon for the characters, not the plot. It's an interesting plot, but the characters are just so much better.


Okay, so here's the big question: Anyone here currently or formerly a member of alt.fan.sailor-moon?  If you are/were, what is/was your handle there?

I am "Sunnie-chan" and my heyday was from about November 1997 until sometime in 2001.  I also post occasionally now, although the group is dying out (except for the span of posts during the 200 Days of Sailor Moon last year).  Originally, my posts came under the name "Pamela Jo Reamer" in the author field (as it was my mother's email account that I used), but eventually it probably was under Sunnie or my maiden name "Ruth Reamer."  I still post there now occasionally as "Sunnie" with "Sunnie" in the author field as well.  I was also one of the original members of the MSOC (Mad Scientist Otaku Cabal).  So, anyone else involved before or even now?  AFSM will always hold a special place in my heart--that's where I met Paradox!

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