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#151 | Back to Top04-13-2017 07:42:55 PM

SaigonAlice
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Re: Steven Universe

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#152 | Back to Top04-15-2017 02:30:07 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

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#153 | Back to Top04-16-2017 02:17:09 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

Except the message was very...vague, to the point that TERFS interpreted it as Trans Women supposedly invading Women's Spaces. :/


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#154 | Back to Top04-16-2017 01:16:18 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

I guess you could see the episode like that, but that still doesn't make the episode good by any means. If you do claim that this is about how to be an ally, it doesn't work since Steven could have just told Ronald from the start how to be a better ally and explain to him about the Crystal gems, like he did with Connie, or any of the Crystal gems did anything to help despite the fact that I could see them stepping in and correcting him on his offensive idea's. Also about the women's space thing, isn't Steven a boy who interfered their space and so did Greg? I am not sure what did you really mean by that statement and I may have misunderstood it but to say that Ronald has interfered with their space first feels kind of wrong.


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#155 | Back to Top04-17-2017 01:33:39 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

itavin wrote:

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

itavin wrote:

I just saw rocknaldo. Lets just say I wanted to rockill myself.  One of the worst su  episodes to air, even with the nice first 3 minutes(satire on how everyone thinks lesbians act like), but the rest are painful to watch and I hope we can all forget that it existed. Sure su is getting better with time, but this is a new low like that one dumb episode in sailor moon super s with minako and hawk eye and tigers eye conflict. Its that dumb.

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

I guess you could see the episode like that, but that still doesn't make the episode good by any means. If you do claim that this is about how to be an ally, it doesn't work since Steven could have just told Ronald from the start how to be a better ally and explain to him about the Crystal gems, like he did with Connie, or any of the Crystal gems did anything to help despite the fact that I could see them stepping in and correcting him on his offensive idea's. Also about the women's space thing, isn't Steven a boy who interfered their space and so did Greg? I am not sure what did you really mean by that statement and I may have misunderstood it but to say that Ronald has interfered with their space first feels kind of wrong.

I think this essay explains it pretty well: https://www.themarysue.com/steven-unive … rocknaldo/

Especially these bits:

This dance of someone being called out, declaring an intention to make good, and then making it all about themselves is so real it practically pops off the screen; and Ronaldo’s antics are given weight and consequence because of Steven’s role in the story, who’s genuinely hurt and upset rather than being able to just roll his eyes and walk away...

The passive aggressive comments Ronaldo makes when he announces himself open to learning about this marginalized group, only to find he’s not immediately the star of the show and the most lauded part of this community....


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#156 | Back to Top04-17-2017 02:08:52 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

itavin wrote:

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Loved Rocknaldo.  Perfect, ceaseless roast of entitled male fans who interject themselves into women's spaces, and a strong message on how to be a good ally for LGBTQ or other marginalized people.

I guess you could see the episode like that, but that still doesn't make the episode good by any means. If you do claim that this is about how to be an ally, it doesn't work since Steven could have just told Ronald from the start how to be a better ally and explain to him about the Crystal gems, like he did with Connie, or any of the Crystal gems did anything to help despite the fact that I could see them stepping in and correcting him on his offensive idea's. Also about the women's space thing, isn't Steven a boy who interfered their space and so did Greg? I am not sure what did you really mean by that statement and I may have misunderstood it but to say that Ronald has interfered with their space first feels kind of wrong.

I think this essay explains it pretty well: https://www.themarysue.com/steven-unive … rocknaldo/

Especially these bits:

This dance of someone being called out, declaring an intention to make good, and then making it all about themselves is so real it practically pops off the screen; and Ronaldo’s antics are given weight and consequence because of Steven’s role in the story, who’s genuinely hurt and upset rather than being able to just roll his eyes and walk away...

The passive aggressive comments Ronaldo makes when he announces himself open to learning about this marginalized group, only to find he’s not immediately the star of the show and the most lauded part of this community....

This still doesn't make the episode good imo because the message is a-vague and open to interpretation and b-a terrible story. It is more obnoxious then it needs to be and Steven and the gems act a little out of character. Steven, while being a nice kid, is overly easily gets manipulated by Ronaldo, which is weird considering Steven isn't a very manipulable guy, and I think that Steven isn't the one that should have passed on the message, but the Crystal gems, who are most likely more offended the Steven should be, or even better to pass the message to Steven and make him pass the message to Ronaldo in a more peaceful way, not burst out, which is also out of character, at least in situations like those, where he is usually more calm and in control. Also, Ronaldo being obnoxious and unlikable in any sense kept me away from understanding the message. An alternative version of this could be about Connie's mom, trying to under stand her daughter as well as having the Crystal gems explain the message to her instead of Steven.


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#157 | Back to Top04-18-2017 10:18:01 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

Anyone here watching this humble, understated little cartoon heavily influenced by Shoujo Kakumei Utena?
Diverse cast, sensitive and progressive handling of gender roles, nuanced character development, canon lesbians, I could go on for hours.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/ … g~original

ZETTAI UNMMEI-- no wait, wrong cartoon. school-devil

I am waiting for the #StevenBomb happening June 15th, can't wait!

OMG, I never realized that the Moon Spire is exactly like the dueling arena!!  How did I miss that?

I can't wait form more episodes!  I just say Lion 4 Alternate ending.

It get's weirder when she shapeshifts into Rose...  This all heavily implies the Amethyst and Greg have gotten it on at some point.

YamPuff wrote:

is the Gem placement in any way significant?

The only time I have seen any significance to the gem placement would be the Ruby squad.  Each one's Gem is placed in areas that reflect the personality of the branch of the US military.  Like Navy (her gem  is in her naval) is super gay (flamboyant really), Army (her gem is in her arm) is though... ETC.  "Eyeball" or as I like to call her Ruby Fury (like of Nick Fury) is, well, like Nick Fury- leader type.  COuld be interpreted as intelligence like the CIA but I dunno.

Revolutionary wrote:

I liked watching Last One Out of Beach City (90's style teen movie! Rebel Pearl!). It gives Pearl some development, lets her find herself again, and is just fun all around. The only thing I'm not sure about is Mystery Girl. It's great for Pearl to finally move on, but I loved Pearl x Rose, and I don't want S. to just be a replacement for Rose. We shall see.
The hiatus is killing me too, but the shorts help and I've been spending time looking at fan art, comics, and memes and discussing the show with some friends.

I loooooove this episode so much!!!  I don't think of Mystery girl as a replacement for Rose, but rather Pearl has a type that she's into. (Big ladies with Pink hair... I can't blame her!)

I love all the characters so much but the two that speak to me the most are Pearl and Garnet.  Garnet because she's just awesome and everything I want a relationship to be.  I identify with Pearl the most.  OCD, anxiety ridden, and unsure of herself and her identity... not to mention queer AF.

Sorry for all the edits to this post.  I read through the WHOLE thread while at work today and rather than having a millions posts responding to each new thing I wanted to talk about I just edited them into one post. emot-smile

I just wanna say I love that we want to know more about Rose and only slowly get to learn about her over time because we are experiencing all of this from Steven's perspective.

Last edited by LadyButterflyNebula (04-18-2017 03:23:14 PM)


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#158 | Back to Top04-22-2017 03:03:29 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

I am getting to the point where I am wondering less and less about Rose and Pink Diamond's backstory and more about why the Gems are keeping Steven in the dark. Do the writers have a good reason, or are they just keeping us (and so Steven) without knowledge???

It's also starting to annoy me a little: every design I see on Tumblr of redrawn Lapis looks way better than canon Lapis. Gold freckles, darker skin, wilder hair. I know she's so loved by the fandom but man is her canon design boring!


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#159 | Back to Top04-24-2017 10:45:48 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

I am getting to the point where I am wondering less and less about Rose and Pink Diamond's backstory and more about why the Gems are keeping Steven in the dark. Do the writers have a good reason, or are they just keeping us (and so Steven) without knowledge???

It's also starting to annoy me a little: every design I see on Tumblr of redrawn Lapis looks way better than canon Lapis. Gold freckles, darker skin, wilder hair. I know she's so loved by the fandom but man is her canon design boring!

I think we're getting to the end game with the show honestly.  With Ruby squad heading to Home World the Diamonds will find out about Steven and shit is going to hit the fan.  The episodes have become more epic (when we don't get filler bullshit like Rocknaldo or the baseball episode) (and yes some will argue it's world building and etc, but we're almost into season 5.  the world is BUILT damn it).

It has come to a point with Rose's back story that I think you're right, the Gem's not telling him what's up is actually more harmful to Steven at this point... going so far as Greg was taken b/c Garnet didn't want to tell Steven what the litter he kept seeing was.

Lapis is pretty cool but I find her kinda boring these days.  The writers need to bring her and Peridot into the central fold.  We see so little of them I kinda don't even care what they are doing anymore.

We have three place settings more or less 1.) The Temple/The Crystal Gems, 2.) Beach City (all human cast members), and 3.) The Farm (Lapis and Peridot).  With the number of episodes we get from Beach City and The farm, I feel like the could be eliminated, or we need more frequent episodes there to keep them relevant.  Other wise when we get episodes like Rocknaldo they feel like they just broke momentum toward the main story. (imo)


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#160 | Back to Top04-24-2017 02:02:27 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD


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#161 | Back to Top04-24-2017 02:54:29 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD

emot-gonk I need to see this now!!!!!!!

With the episode titles available I can only guess which one is making Pearl cry. school-sherlock

Also [I really wonder if White Diamond is a fusion of the three Diamonds we know of.  It's like they are three parts of a personality.
  Yellow is clearly to business/survivor/strength aspect, Blue is clearly sorrrow, and from what we've seen of Pink Diamond's legion, Pink may have been joy.  Together they would make white (since they're creatures of light and with lore from the app Game ATTACK OF LIGHT).  What do you all think?
]

http://i.imgur.com/1fsRV5v.jpg

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#162 | Back to Top04-26-2017 02:26:37 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

LadyButterflyNebula wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD

emot-gonk I need to see this now!!!!!!!

With the episode titles available I can only guess which one is making Pearl cry. school-sherlock

Also [I really wonder if White Diamond is a fusion of the three Diamonds we know of.  It's like they are three parts of a personality.
  Yellow is clearly to business/survivor/strength aspect, Blue is clearly sorrrow, and from what we've seen of Pink Diamond's legion, Pink may have been joy.  Together they would make white (since they're creatures of light and with lore from the app Game ATTACK OF LIGHT).  What do you all think?
]

http://i.imgur.com/1fsRV5v.jpg

That is one really good theory - I like that! Not sure if true considering[ the dismissive attitude Gems have towards fusions as something only weak Gems do (if the Diamonds do it, then wouldn't everyone want to emulate them?--unless no one knows that White Diamond is a fusion). That would mean that Pink Diamond's death is doubly bad because they can no longer form white diamond without her!]


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#163 | Back to Top04-27-2017 01:16:17 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

LadyButterflyNebula wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

NEW PROMO

http://yamsgarden.tumblr.com/post/15993 … -new-promo

http://i65.tinypic.com/vncody.jpg
Y U MAKE PEARL CRY D:

http://i64.tinypic.com/25ounus.jpg
NEW GEMS???

MYSTERIOUS VOICE, WHO R U?

Maybe all the theories about Onion being a Gem are true XD

emot-gonk I need to see this now!!!!!!!

With the episode titles available I can only guess which one is making Pearl cry. school-sherlock

Also [I really wonder if White Diamond is a fusion of the three Diamonds we know of.  It's like they are three parts of a personality.
  Yellow is clearly to business/survivor/strength aspect, Blue is clearly sorrrow, and from what we've seen of Pink Diamond's legion, Pink may have been joy.  Together they would make white (since they're creatures of light and with lore from the app Game ATTACK OF LIGHT).  What do you all think?
]

http://i.imgur.com/1fsRV5v.jpg

That is one really good theory - I like that! Not sure if true considering[ the dismissive attitude Gems have towards fusions as something only weak Gems do (if the Diamonds do it, then wouldn't everyone want to emulate them?--unless no one knows that White Diamond is a fusion). That would mean that Pink Diamond's death is doubly bad because they can no longer form white diamond without her!]

Oh yes.
[See that's what I think!  I think the Diamonds use it and are threatened by the strength gems can gain by fusing together.  It's like nuclear power.  You want to have it on your side but not by the side of anyone who could use it against you.  This would also explain how Rose's rebellion was so successful.  As individuals gems are limited in their powers, but if enough fused together they could become more powerful than the Diamonds (Possibly even more powerful than White Diamond).  This theaory would also explain the "new" home world insignia with White Diamond on top, Blue and Yellow below, but the whole thing is enveloped in green, the color we would get from mixing blue and yellow.  I would argue that Homeworld hasn't seen White Diamond since Pink Diamond's shattering, has no idea that White Diamond is a fusion, and treat fusion like heresy to keep the power of fusion from their subjects]
https://goo.gl/images/VJp1cW
https://goo.gl/images/ZfpEfI

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#164 | Back to Top05-05-2017 03:49:45 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

The latest Steven Bomb was awesome. I love where it's going. emot-biggrin
Looks like it resumes May 31st so we won't have to be in hiatus hell for too long


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#165 | Back to Top05-06-2017 01:25:02 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

[ Topaz kind of reminds me of mori sempai from ouran. Also aquamarine is a gem and not a fusion and is the best thing in SU that has ever happened.] Also the new episodes were pretty dope except the Lars episode and parts of Connie's dad episode, but other then that its okay.


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#166 | Back to Top05-15-2017 03:12:53 PM

itavin
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Re: Steven Universe

Holy crap the Wanted steven bomb, looks amazing ballz. Also[ guessing that the blue diamond will put steven through a trial for his mom's action's but yellow be like bitch pls and just try to kill him. Also steven and lars fusion to make lars more interesting. Also starting to like lars more then before and proves him and onion to be the best beach city citizens.]

Also theory [ Pink D didnt die but was made to a weapon]

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#167 | Back to Top05-16-2017 08:19:11 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

The latest Steven Bomb was awesome. I love where it's going. emot-biggrin
Looks like it resumes May 31st so we won't have to be in hiatus hell for too long

https://media.giphy.com/media/g50nWTqSaXbby/giphy.gif

I would say I can't wait but that's only a few days now! (but yeah it's killing me not to know more now!!!!)

Now theorizing: [  Steven's en-route to Homeworld...  I feel like unless they open the world up by A LOT we're entering the end game of the series.  This has always been a story of a boy growing up with the loss of his mother and his unconventional family with Magical Girl tones and real world messages.  I'm looking forward to Homeworld and gem civilization, but realistically, how long will a kids show run and how much more can they tell in Steven Universe without "jumping the shark"]


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#168 | Back to Top05-30-2017 08:53:07 AM

itavin
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Re: Steven Universe

YamPuff wrote:

The latest Steven Bomb was awesome. I love where it's going. emot-biggrin
Looks like it resumes May 31st so we won't have to be in hiatus hell for too long

HA. Ha. ha. ha... emot-frown Seems after this steven bomb we will not get a new episode for a long time... And its a real shame because it ended on such a fucking cliff hanger like [Steven forgot lars in Homeworld and now we wont know how he will survive with no food and its just like, why?] This is very infuriating, at least the steven bombs before it didnt leave on a stupid cliffhanger.

But it was like amazing. We finally got to see [Homeworld] and it is beautiful. [BD] keeps being performed very well and is very creepy. Also steven has become jesus by now. I mean he did some miracles things before sure, and he still made sense that eh was sad because he thinks he took away jesus aka his mom, but this is ridiculous. He [Made lars come back to life. If that isnt making miracles ,I dont know what is.]. He now has no right to complain.

Theorizing [Pearl was originally pink pearl and killed PD with rose's influance and rose took the blame on herself, cause why not? Make pearl feel bad for me wanting to bang greg so that she will live in torment of killing her owner and getting nothing for it other then a couple of fusions with her. Also, how the fuck can you shatter someone with a sword? Makes no sense.]


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#169 | Back to Top05-30-2017 04:44:47 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

itavin wrote:

Also, how the fuck can you shatter someone with a sword? Makes no sense.[/color]]

[I think that's the clue that Rose didn't kill Pink Diamond.  Rose's Sword cuts through the Gem's physical form, leaving the Gem itself completely unharmed.  Blue Diamond heard that it was the sword that shattered her.  So someone lied to her, or, at some point Rose destroyed Pink Diamond's physical form, and that was seen has her shattering her, but something else happened to Pink Diamond herself.  This puts into question if Pink Diamond was ever even shattered in the first place.  She may be bubbled and hidden by Rose or Yellow Diamond, she may have disappeared of her own volition to live a different kind of life.]

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#170 | Back to Top05-31-2017 09:45:01 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

[I think that's the clue that Rose didn't kill Pink Diamond.  Rose's Sword cuts through the Gem's physical form, leaving the Gem itself completely unharmed.]

That's a really important point. The properties of [Rose's sword were demonstrated with Bismuth] in such a way that even at the time, it felt foreboding. It was certainly a heavy, hard-hitting episode on its own, but particularly in light of [the doubt these most recent episodes brought to the story, it seems as if Rose's sword's particular ability has to come up again in a big way.]

Alternatively, [Yellow Diamond reacts in a fairly suspicious way, but at this point it almost feels too obvious to be true ("the Butler-Diamond did it!") and her furious response could also be chalked up to disbelief that a gem so far below herself would speak accusingly (and by extension disrespectfully) toward a Diamond. This outburst isn't too hard to dismiss given Yellow's more heated and authoritarian characterization compared to Blue.] And of course, as unrealistic as it may be to hope for this,[ it's worth noting that Pearl has shown exceptional skill with a sword and her association with sword fighting has been well-established, perhaps more than any gem's, including Rose. Her ability to move with precision and finesse might be enough to allow her to get close to Pink Diamond, but it doesn't guarantee anything; however, we never have learned who Pearl "belonged" to before the rebellion, how high in that court she was, or how/when she rebelled... and I can see at least one reason why PD's Pearl wouldn't have cried out to warn her...]

Of course, Eyeball-Ruby does say that she "saw [the shattering] with her own eye" and that she wielded a "huge sword" [unlike Pearl's, at least that we have seen] but I'm not convinced yet that this wholly discounts any theories that [Pink Diamond isn't truly shattered, or that Rose may not have been the one to do it.] Not yet, at least!

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#171 | Back to Top06-06-2017 03:21:32 PM

Yams
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Re: Steven Universe

Things of interest:

The old broken fusion statue underneath homeworld, specifically a fusion of 2 different gems. So multi-gem-fusion was not always a bad thing, hmmm?

The tunnels upon tunnels of kindergartens; as stated, homeworld has drained itself of resources and can no longer produce new gems. An interesting thought; a species that can not survive and grow without destroying the planets they live upon. Can this be solved somehow?

White Diamond is everywhere and yet nowhere.

So Lion is, essentially, a zombie lion?

The popular theory going around now is that Pearl shattered Pink Diamond, but I simply don't buy it???

The new fusion gem; is she a Pearl and a Ruby??? Inquiring minds wish to know. She definitely has Sardonyx and Garnet vibes going on.

I NEED TO SEE WHAT THESE AGATES ARE ALL ABOUT MAN. They're like, the personal bodyguards of Diamonds or something??


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#172 | Back to Top06-07-2017 06:52:37 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

Yams wrote:

The popular theory going around now is that Pearl shattered Pink Diamond, but I simply don't buy it???

I can see the reasoning behind this, and I considered it myself, but I'm not totally sold on it.  This show has been pretty good at surprising me, even if some stuff is really well foreshadowed.

Yams wrote:

The new fusion gem; is she a Pearl and a Ruby??? Inquiring minds wish to know. She definitely has Sardonyx and Garnet vibes going on.

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.


Also, while I'm not one to try to guess what happens in a show all the time, I think I might have accidentally come up with a very plausible theory?  So, [Lars is currently stuck on Homeworld.  Steven is back on Earth.]  Is it possible that [Steven possesses Lars again to help him get home?  I imagine it happening by accident for a second, but then Steven would wake up, go through Lion's mane to Lars's hair, and be like, "Yo, Lars, I have a cunning plan; is this kosher?" and Lars would be all, "You know what, since you asked, sure thing, Broanna Newsom."]  Because that's definitely how they talk.  The only issue is [can Steven even still possess Lars, since he's kind of a zombie?]  But I think it's a strong possibility.  Maybe [The New Lars] wasn't the waste of time everyone says it was.  (I don't hate it but it's far from my favorite episode).

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#173 | Back to Top06-08-2017 10:25:52 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SULeaks/commen … rten_gems/ It was confirmed it was a Ruby and Pearl.


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#174 | Back to Top06-08-2017 05:40:42 PM

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Re: Steven Universe

HonorableShadow wrote:

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SULeaks/commen … rten_gems/ It was confirmed it was a Ruby and Pearl.

What is it about Rubies that makes other gems so thirsty???


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#175 | Back to Top06-09-2017 07:00:44 AM

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Re: Steven Universe

Yams wrote:

HonorableShadow wrote:

According to the TV Tropes character page I was reading, yes, but I'm not sure if they explicitly said as much?  It would make sense, given that she has a second set of eyes that reminds me a lot of Rainbow Quartz, and that her hair is very Ruby/Garnet-like.  3bd, I suppose.

Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/SULeaks/commen … rten_gems/ It was confirmed it was a Ruby and Pearl.

What is it about Rubies that makes other gems so thirsty???

Well, it may be that they are just very hot and rough. etc-jurishlick

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