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#1576 | Back to Top12-26-2015 12:16:12 PM

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I finished If on a winter's night a traveler a few days ago. While satyr doesn't think too highly of the book, I actually enjoyed it immensely, as an amusing romp through various genres and styles; any one of the chapters had the potential to be an amazing book, but they would have been too safe and, ultimately, disposable. One might be attracted to the characters, or setting, or the particular mode of narration used by the author, but ultimately one would finish the book and never think about it again. That isn't Calvino's style: he wants to create a book you keep turning over in your mind long after you've read the last words. I loved it.

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#1577 | Back to Top12-26-2015 12:36:13 PM

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I never read far enough into the Anita Blake books to get to the raging porno ones, but I kinda still want to.

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Of course, if you just replaced 'fanfic writer' with 'online freelance artist' you basically would have had exactly me, down to the concept that I would stay in my room eating granola bars because the cafeteria is strange and scary. Like, it's kind of played off as a joke.. but I've been there. emot-gonk

It took me until the book to realize that's what one of my roommates in summer school, way back, was doing. I can be dense about things like that.


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#1578 | Back to Top12-26-2015 02:57:25 PM

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Atropos wrote:

I finished If on a winter's night a traveler a few days ago. While satyr doesn't think too highly of the book, I actually enjoyed it immensely, as an amusing romp through various genres and styles; any one of the chapters had the potential to be an amazing book, but they would have been too safe and, ultimately, disposable. One might be attracted to the characters, or setting, or the particular mode of narration used by the author, but ultimately one would finish the book and never think about it again. That isn't Calvino's style: he wants to create a book you keep turning over in your mind long after you've read the last words. I loved it.

For me it didn't hit on all cylinders, but I still thought it was a great idea. emot-smile  Calvino's writing is pretty experimental; you don't go into an experimental author's canon expecting to like everything you read.  It's enough if it tickles your imagination -- and sometimes you discover something like Invisible Cities. etc-love

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#1579 | Back to Top12-26-2015 06:12:14 PM

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Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

I never read far enough into the Anita Blake books to get to the raging porno ones, but I kinda still want to.

Anita: Oh my god, it's the ardeur! I have to have sex now or I WILL DIE!
Randomwerevampirethinger that may or may not be based on someone hot in pop culture right now: Hey, does this place have a washroom?
Anita: WE MUST FUCK even though I don't know you and I will spend X-5 seconds feeling ashamed of myself for being a whore later, where X is the number of times I still think about things like "my job" and "characterization" and "people who aren't supernatural" per book

*insert tedious descriptive passage, complete with multiple repetitions of "just flat does it for me" and "mounds of creamy goodness"*

Anita: And now the obligatory post-coital relationship drama!

*oh my goddddddddddddd so tedious hashing and rehashing of relationship problems with everyone and their weredog (if it fucked Anita, that is)*

Anita: I have now forgotten all about this randomwerevampirethinger except to vaguely reference him as one of my "sweeties" from time to time and possibly kill him off when the real life person he's based on rejects my-- I mean Laurell's romantic advances
Anita: also I leveled up and have NEW POWARZ, which may never show up again
Jean-Claude: MA CHERIE, MA PETITE, LOL I COULD HAVE BEEN A HOT CHARACTER BUT I'M STUCK IN THIS NOVEL LOL also sometimes I am phoned in to the point where I am a literal voice on the phone
Richard: Hey, isn't it great? I just became posterboy for Mood Swings Daily! I HATE YOU ANITA no let me have sex with you plz
Badguys: Uhhh... we're here, somewhere?
Anita: Oh my god, I need to save everyone! *spreads legs* Quick, someone fuck me!
Badguys: Uhh... *edging away*
Anita, partially obscured by some random's thrusting buttocks: AVADA KEDAVRA
Badguys: Fuck this, I'm out.
Anita: I saved the day, again! And none of my sweeties helped me because I'm a Strong Female Character!
~fin~

There, now you don't have to read them. Please don't read them.


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#1580 | Back to Top12-26-2015 06:15:44 PM

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Oh dearie, I've only read part of one of Anita's book and it was exactly as Yasha described it. Except worse, much worse, which is why I never finished it. I wish I could recall the title but at the same time am almost glad that I cannot, for the life of me, remember.

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#1581 | Back to Top12-26-2015 06:17:43 PM

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See? I'm not even exaggerating much. Stupid books emot-mad


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#1582 | Back to Top12-27-2015 04:11:39 AM

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I think I made it six or seven books in. Sex, even without contributing to the plot, isn't going to run me off, as long as it's either sexy or funny. The books I had read in the series, were pure cheese, but it was a funny cheese, at least.

Some day. Maybe.


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#1583 | Back to Top12-29-2015 05:20:10 PM

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I forgot to mention that I finally started reading the Harry Potter series. I managed to plow through Sorceror's Stone in a weekend while I was at work, and I'm halfway through Chamber of Secrets.


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#1584 | Back to Top01-02-2016 01:44:10 PM

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Thread made me queue up some Anne Rice on my Kindle, but first (that is, right now) The Lunatic Cafe and Hogfather. I'm not sure I actually read Hogfather before, or if I just remember the tv movie/miniseries. But, it's suitably funny throughout and has a stronger backbone to it than a lot of later Pratchett novels, at least for me.

And, well, no mounds of creamy goodness in the early Anita Blake, just the normal weird gendering obsessions and her refusing a job, taking the job, being awkward with some dude, banging some dude, being awkward about her job, and someone dying. A tried and true formula.


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#1585 | Back to Top01-02-2016 08:04:45 PM

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Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

Thread made me queue up some Anne Rice on my Kindle, but first (that is, right now) The Lunatic Cafe and Hogfather. I'm not sure I actually read Hogfather before, or if I just remember the tv movie/miniseries. But, it's suitably funny throughout and has a stronger backbone to it than a lot of later Pratchett novels, at least for me.

Have you read Night Watch? I swear, that's one of the most beautifully constructed novels I've ever read. I liked it so much that I finished it and then immediately started it again.

Decrescent Daytripper wrote:

And, well, no mounds of creamy goodness in the early Anita Blake, just the normal weird gendering obsessions and her refusing a job, taking the job, being awkward with some dude, banging some dude, being awkward about her job, and someone dying. A tried and true formula.

Don't forget the weird hostility towards blondes. What's up with that, seriously?


Also, splittin' dis vamper talk into its own thread, and since it's SKU related it's going into HERE in the SKU section.


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#1586 | Back to Top01-04-2016 12:38:52 AM

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Yasha wrote:

Have you read Night Watch? I swear, that's one of the most beautifully constructed novels I've ever read. I liked it so much that I finished it and then immediately started it again.

I really enjoyed that. Especially because I read it stuck in an airport and needed something really good and it was!

Yasha wrote:

Don't forget the weird hostility towards blondes. What's up with that, seriously?

Oh, seriously.

And, if there was a drinking game for unnecessary French, "ma petite" alone would give you alcohol poisoning in five chapters.


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#1587 | Back to Top01-06-2016 02:44:59 AM

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And pleeeeeaase, what is up with that fashion sense?? Anita always wearing polo shirts, people running around in spandex catsuits with strategic cutouts and I think a fucking pirate hat to top it off, people wearing bondage gear as regular clothing, Jean-Claude wearing the most ridiculous things in Laurell's attempts to make him sexy-- like, thigh high leather boots??? On a girl in a skirt, sure. On a guy who's wearing pants under them? No. Oh my god no. That has to be so uncomfortable. Shirts that have sheer panels so you can see his nipples OMG A VAMPER NIPPLE SO HOT. And don't forget the lace on everything, which is TOTALLY MASCULINE ON HIM NOT FEMININE AT ALL.

A red blouse with a forest green shirt and blazer for Christmas?????? Like no, my eyes are burning, stop it emot-gonk

Ahem.


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#1588 | Back to Top01-06-2016 02:52:33 AM

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Yasha wrote:

A red blouse with a forest green shirt and blazer for Christmas?????? Like no, my eyes are burning, stop it emot-gonk

And, her guy, just by chance, wore a matching outfit. And she still went out with him!


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#1589 | Back to Top01-06-2016 04:44:53 AM

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DD, I am so sorry. There used to be an amazing recap set of the ABVH books that I think you would enjoy, but it's dead now and even the wayback can't find it all. I'm crushed, actually. It must have died just after I last read it.

I need a moment here... so many amazing cutdowns, gone forever.... emot-gonk


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#1590 | Back to Top01-06-2016 11:25:19 AM

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After much looking, I found the Laurell K. Hamilton book that I tried to read, back in the day. As it turns out it is not an Anita Blake novel but part of another saga and goes by the title of 'A Kiss of Shadows'. It includes a Seal Person Guy that is probably the highlight of the whole thing.
It also includes tentacle porn! Heh. To be fair, the many sex scenes are woven into the plot since Merry, our narrador who at page 2 is already spewing lines like, and I quote, 'I knew I looked hot when Jeremy complimented my clothes', belongs to a Fairy kind that uses sex as magic.
But the first person narrative does not help, it makes many moments unintentionally funny.

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#1591 | Back to Top01-06-2016 05:26:19 PM

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Yasha wrote:

And pleeeeeaase, what is up with that fashion sense?? Anita always wearing polo shirts, people running around in spandex catsuits with strategic cutouts and I think a fucking pirate hat to top it off, people wearing bondage gear as regular clothing, Jean-Claude wearing the most ridiculous things in Laurell's attempts to make him sexy-- like, thigh high leather boots??? On a girl in a skirt, sure. On a guy who's wearing pants under them? No. Oh my god no. That has to be so uncomfortable. Shirts that have sheer panels so you can see his nipples OMG A VAMPER NIPPLE SO HOT. And don't forget the lace on everything, which is TOTALLY MASCULINE ON HIM NOT FEMININE AT ALL.

The only excuse I can offer for any of that is that the first eight or so books were written in the mid-to-late 90s.

After much looking, I found the Laurell K. Hamilton book that I tried to read, back in the day. As it turns out it is not an Anita Blake novel but part of another saga and goes by the title of 'A Kiss of Shadows'. It includes a Seal Person Guy that is probably the highlight of the whole thing.
It also includes tentacle porn! Heh. To be fair, the many sex scenes are woven into the plot since Merry, our narrador who at page 2 is already spewing lines like, and I quote, 'I knew I looked hot when Jeremy complimented my clothes', belongs to a Fairy kind that uses sex as magic.
But the first person narrative does not help, it makes many moments unintentionally funny.

That would be the Merry Gentry series. I don't think she even tried to pretend that it wasn't fairy erotica. (Faerotica?)


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#1592 | Back to Top01-06-2016 05:46:04 PM

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Yasha wrote:

DD, I am so sorry. There used to be an amazing recap set of the ABVH books that I think you would enjoy, but it's dead now and even the wayback can't find it all. I'm crushed, actually. It must have died just after I last read it.

I need a moment here... so many amazing cutdowns, gone forever.... emot-gonk

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#1593 | Back to Top01-07-2016 11:36:16 AM

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Recently read Sandman: Overture.

As a long time fan of the series, I was both hopeful and uncertain about what to expect. I have mixed feelings on it. I like some of the ways concepts introduced early in the series were called back on, but greatly disliked some new ones. So...uncertain what to feel.


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#1594 | Back to Top01-08-2016 07:29:19 AM

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I've been collecting it up, but refused to read it until it was finished. It's finished now but I got distracted with Holly Black's Lucifer. Which is pretty great. I love the books of hers I've read and the comic is in the same spirit. school-devil school-devil

Is it set with Daniel or Morpheus out of curiosity?


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#1595 | Back to Top01-08-2016 06:35:58 PM

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Let's see: in the past few weeks I've read The Master and Margarita, A Young Doctor's Notebook and Other Stories, A Short History of Decay, and three out of four volumes in the Cornelius Quartet. Currently working on The Condition of Muzak and The Bridge of San Luis Rey.

Anyone want to discuss any of these, feel free, I'm all in.

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#1596 | Back to Top01-08-2016 09:58:36 PM

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One of my favorite moment in The Master and Margarita(and it's been way too long since I read it so details are foggy) has got to be when, [Some currency gets changed into dollars which leads to a lot of chaos. And isn't there some sort of ball for the society high rollers that goes completely awry?].
The department of literature was absolutely hilarious, bonus points for the poor fellows whose sole job was to compose epic poetry praising the regime.

I now have a half a mind to actually read my Laurell K. Hamilton book. It may be overt porn for the most part but it has Seal People and tentacles, it should at least be amusing even if probably unintentionally so.

And speaking of porn, I just read the thus far published volumes of Captive Prince by C.S Pacat. I went into it expecting steamy gay porn but was very pleasantly surprised. While it does show its manga influences (the author has herself admitted that Ai no Kusabi and Berserk were two major influences), it goes beyond the seme/uke cliché and manages to build a very interesting relationship between the two main characters. The fact that the relationship develops slowly enough to be believable and the way a potentially very porny premise- in which a betrayed prince literally becomes the sex slave of a prince from a rival nation, complete with hidden identity and all- is explored to actually explore the characters took me quite by surprise. Add to that a well thought out plot full of intrigue and political scheming.
I normally do not read this kind of literature but it kept me engaged from start to finish and very eager to read the soon to be published final volume.

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#1597 | Back to Top01-08-2016 11:58:26 PM

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Giovanna wrote:

I've been collecting it up, but refused to read it until it was finished. It's finished now but I got distracted with Holly Black's Lucifer. Which is pretty great. I love the books of hers I've read and the comic is in the same spirit. school-devil school-devil

Is it set with Daniel or Morpheus out of curiosity?

Yes. emot-smile


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#1598 | Back to Top01-18-2016 10:58:24 AM

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I'm currently reading Life of Pi. It's not the kind of novel I would ever read, it seemed like one of those hokey spiritual inspiring stories. I hang out in the library during my breaks at work rather than the teacher lounge (to avoid socializing, of course) and one day I found the book sitting on the couch where I normally hang out. I picked it up, leafed through it and got hooked. It's quirky and humorous and I look forward to reading it every day when I have a free class. I have not checked it out of the library. and, not knowing if the book will still be there for me to read on any given day is part of the appeal for me somehow.

I finished reading Humans of New York: Stories. If you're a fan of Brandon's work, it's worth a purchase. It's gorgeous and well-designed, a great coffee-table book and a nice conversation starter. It can make you smile and also bring tears to your eyes. emot-smile

Finally, The Drawing of the Three, the second book in the Gunslinger series by Stephen King. I got audio books of the whole series and the reader is really good. I've been wanting to reread the series for a while but don't really have the time, so an audio book was the next best thing. It's great seeing all the foreshadowing and in-depth world-building all the way from the start (for example, I don't think they pick up the Billy Bumbler until book 3, but the species is mentioned in book 1). Not only that but MAN is there some grade A level homoerotic tension between Eddie and Roland. school-devil

Nocturnalux wrote:

And speaking of porn, I just read the thus far published volumes of Captive Prince by C.S Pacat. I went into it expecting steamy gay porn but was very pleasantly surprised. While it does show its manga influences (the author has herself admitted that Ai no Kusabi and Berserk were two major influences), it goes beyond the seme/uke cliché and manages to build a very interesting relationship between the two main characters. The fact that the relationship develops slowly enough to be believable and the way a potentially very porny premise- in which a betrayed prince literally becomes the sex slave of a prince from a rival nation, complete with hidden identity and all- is explored to actually explore the characters took me quite by surprise. Add to that a well thought out plot full of intrigue and political scheming.

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#1599 | Back to Top01-22-2016 09:07:31 AM

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So I just finished The Fault in Our Stars.


.........sigh.............

Okay, I have to confess, I fucking love John Green's whole Crash Course thing, and so does Gio. We actually signed up to give them money every month, we love it that much.

......................but..................

Okay, this is complicated in one way, and in another way not complicated at all. I can see that a lot of research and love and time went into this book. John Green is a very smart guy and a very compelling writer.

But.

It's sorrow porn.

Like seriously, I was as moved as anyone else would be by the final chapters. Yes, I cried. A lot.

BUT.

That sorrow was the whole point of the book. That was the center, the aim, of the entire thing. These characters and situations were imagined and built with the sole purpose of engendering that sorrow in the reader. The book was predictable as shit once viewed through that lens. Yes, I cried. A lot. But at the same time I was thinking that this wasn't any different from the gore porn movies I love. It was just... gore porn using emotions instead of blood.

I'd thought better of you, John Green.


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#1600 | Back to Top01-22-2016 12:43:12 PM

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Hmm.  Are all books about loss -- books where the experience and tragedy of loss are at the center -- sorrow porn?

To me, calling something porn means it uses visceral reactions to give you feelings it didn't earn, rather than have those feelings emerge from the story.  Sex porn makes you horny (if it does) mostly using body parts and their interactions, not through its richly observed sexuality.  Horror porn scares you by relying on jump scares and gore rather than by, say, developing a really uncanny setting.  And sorrow porn makes you cry by presenting situations that would make anyone cry, without using plot or character development to give the sadness meaning or nuance.

If you like that definition of porn, I guess whether The Fault in Our Stars is sorrow porn depends on whether you think Hazel and Augustus fail to transcend being kids with cancer (a situation that would make anyone sad), or whether you think they come into their own as full and rich characters who you're sad for because you care about them, because the book has earned your empathy.  Myself, I think it's in between -- it's a young-adult novel, not The Brothers Karamazov -- but closer to the latter.  (I acknowledge that sending the protagonist to the Holocaust museum is a point against my theory.)  If you want to see sorrow porn, go watch the first episode of Kotoura-san, then come back and compare that to the book you read. emot-wink

(Disclaimer: I do not think there is anything wrong with any of the kinds of porn I described above!  I think there's an important place for it.  I just don't think it's Good Literature, which is the way The Fault in Our Stars is usually presented.)

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