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HOLY SHIT PEOPLE, IT'S NOT BAD ENOUGH WE'RE GETTING AN UTENA EXHIBITION RIGHT NOW

THEY. ARE. MAKING. A. NEW. MUSICAL. NEXT. YEAR. START LOSING YOUR SHIT RIGHT NOW

#1026 | Back to Top01-17-2010 02:51:57 PM

Ragnarok
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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Miki goes to the cake shop? Maybe he's hoping Anthy will show up there. emot-confused


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#1027 | Back to Top01-17-2010 03:27:37 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Ragnarok wrote:

Miki goes to the cake shop? Maybe he's hoping Anthy will show up there. emot-confused

Yeah, you'd think he'd go to the city conservatory or library, but the guidebook says he's in the cakeshop, and I've seen screenshots of him there...then again, Miki's still 13-years-old, and most middle-schoolers haven't outgrown their childhood sweet-tooth (heck, I haven't outgrown my childhood sweet-tooth)

...plus, at least one of the times you go to the cake-shop, Kozue's w/ him, and Kozue would vastly prefer the cakeshop over the local library or conservatory or museum. Makes sense.

...Just as long as Miki and Kozue don't buy milkshakes. *Shudders* emot-gonk

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#1028 | Back to Top01-17-2010 06:33:00 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

I have a question for our translator extraordinaire: Dalbun, what kind of pronoun does Chigusa use to refer to herself? I mean, as much fun as it is to make fun of D-ko’s  complete obliviousness to plunging necklines emot-smile, maybe that has something to do with it.


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#1029 | Back to Top01-19-2010 07:46:46 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Well...uh...this could have gone better. emot-keke'

WinstonTA wrote:

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

after each option, she could put a symbol or a name to tell us what 'path' said options is 'preparing' us for.  Such as a etc-love or etc-loveetc-love if it will gain us points with the character whose ending we have decided we want

I agree with this.  It's just close enough to directly going with a walkthrough, but allows us to still maintain an element of surprise. emot-smile

Thirded. Dalbun can summarize any parts which are already translated. I also vote for keeping D-ko's name. Let's give her another chance. emot-smile


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#1030 | Back to Top01-20-2010 02:49:40 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Riri-kins wrote:

I also vote for keeping D-ko's name. Let's give her another chance. emot-smile

"The Adolescence of D-ko"?
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#1031 | Back to Top01-20-2010 05:45:18 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Nights1stStar wrote:

I guess whether or not Dalbun posts full translations would depend on how easily they can be copied and pasted from earlier posts.

Oh, quite easily. It's entirely a matter of the community's preference.

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Katieryn wrote:

I'd like to try for the "perfect" ending, since it'll be all plotty and whatnot

Nights1stStar wrote:

(for me, if it were at all possible to combine Saionji's ending with one that elaborates Chigusa's plot I'd be all for it)

I don't know for certain, but I don't think the Perfect Ending will actually be much more plotty than the character endings - if it does give us more backstory, it will only be a little. In any case, the routes to the character endings are likely to be far more interesting. (My personal vote is to go for Touga, because that sounds like loads of fun. Miki would also be fun, if only because we would surely run afoul of Kozue.)

LectitoErgoSum wrote:

I have a question for our translator extraordinaire: Dalbun, what kind of pronoun does Chigusa use to refer to herself? I mean, as much fun as it is to make fun of D-ko’s  complete obliviousness to plunging necklines emot-smile, maybe that has something to do with it.

Chigusa uses "watashi," the polite pronoun for either gender (bordering on feminine). There are no excuses. emot-rolleyes (One thing I did notice is that when Chigusa says "watashi," it's written with the kanji 私, whereas when D-ko says it, it's generally written out in hiragana as わたし, giving it a slightly more childish feel. It's one of those crazy things you can do in written Japanese that's completely impossible to convey out loud. Or translate.)



Nights1stStar gave a good summary of the game mechanics, although I think you're overstating the connection between our girliness and our vulnerability. In a sense, Chigusa's points do seem to indicate how much she likes us... as a victim. Submissive, "girly" choices which put us more under her thrall give her points, sure, but there are also choices (like the library one) that displease Chigusa for completely different reasons. (I scouted that choice out when we were at that juncture.)

By the way, it's just as well that we're playing through again, because even if we hadn't gotten in the Akio Car, we were on a crash course for a Game Over ending. I checked.

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#1032 | Back to Top01-20-2010 06:12:52 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Dallbun wrote:

Nights1stStar gave a good summary of the game mechanics, although I think you're overstating the connection between our girliness and our vulnerability. In a sense, Chigusa's points do seem to indicate how much she likes us... as a victim. Submissive, "girly" choices which put us more under her thrall give her points, sure, but there are also choices (like the library one) that displease Chigusa for completely different reasons. (I scouted that choice out when we were at that juncture.)

cool Thanks for telling me. As one who has scoured the game guides and desperately tried to convert the game to PC despite knowing no Japanese, it's good to get a feel of the character subtleties that one can't pick up on just by reading unofficial, fan-translated guides. Not to mention that the reasoning behind some of Chigusa's feelings are riddled with spoilers, and I can't exactly post them. At least I got a good grasp of the game strategies.

About the translations vs. summary debate, I'd say copy-and-paste translations, because then it's a win-win situation. New players/old players who want to review scenes can read them wholly, and old players who want to skip the scenes can just scroll down.

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#1033 | Back to Top01-20-2010 06:05:38 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Dallbun wrote:

there are also choices (like the library one)

Whoops, I meant the newspaper club choice, of course, not the library. You can't go to the Ohtori library. Nobody goes to the library. (Seriously, is it ever seen again after episode 4 in the TV series?)

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#1034 | Back to Top01-20-2010 06:13:19 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Episode 18, Mitsuru's Impatience comes to mind. He was studying there and then asked Utena and Anthy about being an adult.

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#1035 | Back to Top01-20-2010 07:23:24 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

The question being, why were Utena and Anthy at the library?


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#1036 | Back to Top01-20-2010 07:24:17 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Ragnarok wrote:

The question being, why were Utena and Anthy at the library?

It's where Anthy reads her yuri. :p

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#1037 | Back to Top01-20-2010 08:57:21 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

It's where Anthy reads her yuri. :p

Wouldn't it be Utena yuri, Anthy bondage/tentacle/mutilation pr0n?
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#1038 | Back to Top01-21-2010 03:34:22 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Even though I'm pretty sure he's going to lose the poll, please do a Miki ending.

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#1039 | Back to Top01-21-2010 07:27:29 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Oh, and I was the chick who wanted a Saionji ending with some Chigusa detectivin'. 

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#1040 | Back to Top01-21-2010 12:59:23 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Well, I don't know if this is going to be the official voting time, but Juri just in case. school-devil Hot lesbian showering, here we come...

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#1041 | Back to Top01-21-2010 01:53:09 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

I'd take the Touga or Miki endings. I love Kozue, especially if she's going to be a bitch to us. Though a Touga story sounds hilarious.

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#1042 | Back to Top01-21-2010 02:43:13 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Oddly, enough, I would like to go for a Miki ending as well. I think we didn't get to see nearly enough of him this playthrough (he got one, maybe two choices), and I would REALLY like to see more Kozue. I don't mind not going for an Utena ending, even though she's my favourite; if we're keeping her points above 60% anyway, we'll see enough of her to satisfy.

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#1043 | Back to Top01-21-2010 04:14:06 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Nights1stStar wrote:

Well, I don't know if this is going to be the official voting time...

I guess it is now. Go ahead and vote for an ending. If you expressed a preference that's lost up in the mists of previous conversation, go ahead and point it out again so I'm certain not to miss it.

I'm not sure standard voting is the best way to handle this important choice, though... unless a clear favorite emerges, we might need to have a runoff vote or something.

OnlyInThisLight wrote:

Oh, and I was the chick who wanted a Saionji ending with some Chigusa detectivin'.

*Insert the words nekkid in the above sentence where one sees fit*

"I was the nekkid chick who wanted a Saionji ending with some Chigusa detectivin'"?

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#1044 | Back to Top01-21-2010 04:32:07 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Oooh, what a hard choice. But who am I kidding? If I had the chance, I'd lez out with Kozue

Miki ending

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#1045 | Back to Top01-21-2010 05:22:52 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Hmmmm.

HMMMM.

I'd normally be a jerkass and say Anthy ending, but that's kinda unfeasible unless...well, I won't spoil it but I will say we'd be playing the game a lot.

So I'll take my jerkassery in a different direction and say Chigusa ending.

Oh, and Dallbun? Think we could get pics of the Akio Badge page(s)?


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#1046 | Back to Top01-21-2010 05:35:46 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

I'd really like to try all the endings, but since I don't know how many we're doing, I'm going to vote for Miki but really mostly for Kozue. etc-love etc-love
I really don't know though.. it's so hard to decide. emot-gonk


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#1047 | Back to Top01-21-2010 11:25:15 PM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Well my vote was directly above your post, but just in case you'd rather all votes be after your post for ease of collection, I'll confirm my vote here. I'm in with *cough*Kozue*cough* Miki.

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#1048 | Back to Top01-22-2010 12:27:16 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Touga!

No seriously. I wanna see her cry when she has to get in line.


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#1049 | Back to Top01-22-2010 12:27:39 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

Saionji.  *strums ukulele*

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#1050 | Back to Top01-22-2010 02:08:43 AM

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Re: Let's Play! Utena for the Sega Saturn!

I'd like to see a Touga ending. Because it would be hilarious.

Barring that, an Anthy ending might be interesting too.

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