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#76 | Back to Top03-20-2013 01:23:13 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Does anyone yoga?

If you do, can you recommend for me a style or school or form (or whatever it is called) of yoga which emphasizes stretchiness, strength training, balance, posture, and other good physiological stuff, and has little or no prana, chi, essential energies, wheat germ, or references to the immortal soul?

I am a rationalist, scientific, skeptical, left-brained motherfucker. That hippie stuff just doesn't fly with me. If someone tells me to feel my energy, I'll ask them if they mean kinetic energy, electrical potential energy, some kind of kinesthetic* sense of well-being, or what. And if a good answer is not forthcoming. . . hoo boy.

So does such an animal exist? I want to be a bendy mofo with seriously proper core muscles (because your core is mother-effing everything when you're athletic).


(* This word is not in Firefox's spell check. Boo.)


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#77 | Back to Top03-20-2013 01:52:00 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Yoga is, as it's practiced, isn't nearly as ancient or mystical as it's sometimes made out to be. It's basically several turn of the century exercise regimes put together, with some breathing exercises, and a veneer of energy centers and mysticality to capitalize on the British and American craze for mysticism going strong at that moment in time. It was designed for export.

The actual basic poses and breathing exercises can be very beneficial, but they're not going to cure your cancer so much as build some core muscle and keep your limbs and neck well stretched. Parts, it turns out, aren't as good for you, and hopefully any decent class would do without those poses/maneuvers.

I'd hope most community center or community college yoga classes wouldn't be awfully churchy, but you never know. The main use of doing one in a class and not by yourself is to have someone else looking over your form and keeping you from trying something too complex and potentially damaging.

Good luck and all.


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#78 | Back to Top03-20-2013 10:13:34 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

I just started playing with yoga by downloading a shitload of videos for it, I figure as many variations as possible to get a good idea of the central themes. I have always been skeptical of it because I hate the crowd that follows yoga--middle class skinny white girls who think they're saving the universe by purchasing lululemon.

But the yoga itself completely trashes me* and so far has been an awesome workout for making me utterly unable to walk the next day (fuck you warrior pose). My best advice is to try doing yoga at a local gym where it's counted as a dropin class or something alongside other workouts. Yoga done in this setting is less, from what I hear, about the foo foo shit and more about the workout, because once you're attending a yoga studio, you have to tread lightly to avoid the bimbos and casual spirituality and preaching about veganism. Seek out videos or gyms or groups where you're more likely to find bodybuilders and athletes. These groups use yoga to supplement or develop strength and flexibility, and they'll focus on those aspects. As far as I've seen, the type of yoga is less important than the population it's aimed at, and there's kind of a mixed practice thing when you're aiming at fitness instead of spirituality, since difference aspects of the different schools accomplish that purpose well. The term I've seen the most is 'power yoga'--that shows up in a lot of the stuff you're describing looking for.

Avoid Bikram/hot yoga. Working in excessive heat isn't good for you, isn't clearing out toxins, and isn't helping you burn fat in any way worth the negative consequences.

*If you weigh a pound above normal, yoga is very hard, since it's entirely body weight training.


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#79 | Back to Top03-21-2013 12:09:49 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

TYVM Gio. etc-love

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#80 | Back to Top04-16-2013 10:06:46 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Well, this has fallen a bit low on the page, and I doubt anyone's particularly interested in what I'm up to. I still feel that having a place to occasionally post about what I'm doing is helpful though, so here goes. Even if I'm mostly talking to myself.

I ended up seeing a cardiologist twice over the last month to look into my heart rate. A whole bunch of tests were taken that I found pretty cool, from an ultra sound of my heart to a stress test. And x-rays and ekg's in between. No particular explanation for my troubles came up but, the (very) good news is that after all was said and done the cardiologist was quite positive I have no heart problems. So it's either probably some (very) mild sort of exercise induced asthma that's doing it to me or I'm simply taking a very long time to get back into a good aerobic condition. Getting "back" is a bit of a loose phrase here, since I was never great in the first place. I'm hoping it's the second, and will somehow sort itself out in another three months or so. I'm not going to follow up with another md for respiratory stuff, since it's pretty mild otherwise and has absolutely no effect on my everyday life outside of (relatively) strenuous cardio.

The exercise has been going pretty well. I've dipped down from 4 days a week towards three as exams have become a bit more frequent. It really is tricky to fit an hour of gym work and transit time into some days when you have a ton of other /must do/ things going on. But even so, three days a week is fairly good. I'm hoping to up it again once the semester lets out. I'll be taking summer classes, but just one per session which will just meet twice a week. I should have plenty of time to keep exercising.

While my running results have definitely been lackluster, after ~4 months now I've started to notice a small difference in muscle tone I think. I have vague triceps now. Nothing picture worthy at all, but it's sort of neat since before there were none. My legs have definitely become more toned too. More tangibly I've been able to start doing more weight than I could at first. Not a lot more, but you know it's real change when you're doing something you simply couldn't at first (ie: an extra 10 pounds is barely anything, but it's proof positive of change when you couldn't have done the exercise with that weight at the beginning). I'm starting to care more about toning up than I thought I did at first, actually. Maybe that's just a residual effect of me struggling with running, and needing another more immediately achievable goal to latch onto.

At any rate, I'm keeping it up. I really like it to. I just feel good about myself when I'm doing it. It's not opiates, but access to exercise equipment is probably more accessible and certainly more legal :x. I sleep in less too. I don't know if there's a causative effect there, but it's definitely correlative. I used to sleep for 11/12 hours pretty often. Now I find myself waking up after 9, even when I'm aiming to sleep in (although I'm still always tired when I'm stuck with less than 7 ;; )

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#81 | Back to Top04-16-2013 10:27:50 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Glad to hear you're healthy, Valeli!  And that you're still at the gym!

Valeli wrote:

More tangibly I've been able to start doing more weight than I could at first. Not a lot more, but you know it's real change when you're doing something you simply couldn't at first (ie: an extra 10 pounds is barely anything, but it's proof positive of change when you couldn't have done the exercise with that weight at the beginning).

This is one of my favorite parts about exercise: success is often measurable.  One reason I haven't been posting here, actually, is that my success measurements haven't been so strong recently.  I'm still keeping up with my running, but I tried turning the machine up just slightly faster -- like, six and a half seconds per mile faster -- and suddenly I lost all my distance.  Maybe it's just that I don't have a half-marathon in the immediate future anymore, but my last three runs have been four miles, four miles, and five miles.  Not exactly my usual.  emot-frown  But I'll keep chugging along and work back up!

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#82 | Back to Top05-06-2013 01:08:46 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Success is a good thing.

Had my check-up today, and my triglycerides and all that shit is down!


Even with diet only being semi-consistent, regular exercise helps out tons. emot-biggrin

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#83 | Back to Top05-10-2013 10:32:36 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Playing a tennis tournament this weekend.

Have to play 5 matches in 3 days.

My 2nd match of the night, I was in the zone or flow or whatever. Not flawless, but I wasn't tight or tense. I was swinging free and without stress.

I wish every match I play in competition could feel like this one, even when if I lose.

One of the most enjoyable experiences I've ever had in a tournament.


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#84 | Back to Top05-10-2013 10:56:44 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Ashnod wrote:

Playing a tennis tournament this weekend.

Have to play 5 matches in 3 days.

My 2nd match of the night, I was in the zone or flow or whatever. Not flawless, but I wasn't tight or tense. I was swinging free and without stress.

I wish every match I play in competition could feel like this one, even when if I lose.

One of the most enjoyable experiences I've ever had in a tournament.

You'd best be over that shit when we meet on the court tomorrow afternoon. school-devil


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#85 | Back to Top05-19-2013 09:17:05 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

1st place in a tennis tournament last week.

3rd place in the Corporate Challenge racquetball tournament this week.

It's been a productive beginning to the summer competitive season. emot-smile

Hopefully, my momentum will hold throughout the rest of it.


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#86 | Back to Top05-19-2013 09:23:27 PM

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Ashnod wrote:

1st place in a tennis tournament last week.

3rd place in the Corporate Challenge racquetball tournament this week.

It's been a productive beginning to the summer competitive season. emot-smile

Hopefully, my momentum will hold throughout the rest of it.

Good job!

See you at the Kansas City Open June 7-9th emot-dance


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#87 | Back to Top05-19-2013 10:01:13 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

I played racquetball this weekend too.  I played really hard, and sometimes I even hit the ball!  emot-tongue  Maybe one of you will humor me the next time we're all in the same place!

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#88 | Back to Top05-19-2013 10:56:37 PM

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I would be delighted.


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#89 | Back to Top05-25-2013 09:52:40 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

I don't actually go to the gym anymore but found the 100 push up challenge and 200 sit up challenge helpful.  Doing couch to 5k, as well, but my running progress is slow. 

Otherwise, I've been extremely out of shape most of my life so there's been a lot to learn.  I've, at least, learned the importance of stretching.  It's kept me from getting muscle tears for a while. 

My fb friends may know I'm under a certain time constraint to get into very good shape for the job I'm going for, so there is a lot of pressure.  I wish, just for the mental satisfaction alone, that I started sooner.

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#90 | Back to Top06-04-2013 08:47:08 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Four or so days of tennis.

I'm cooked.

It doesn't help that I've been reliant on it to get the step count for the stupid Global Corporate Challenge that I somehow got roped into without my consent at work.

Tomorrow is rest day.


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#91 | Back to Top06-04-2013 08:59:32 PM

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Three days to the Kansas City Open tennis tournament, and guess who is the #1 seed in her division?

Ashnod! Go, Ashnod, go!

Oh yeah, I'll be competing there too. emot-rofl


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#92 | Back to Top07-08-2013 04:45:08 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Since my half-marathon in February I've been trying to dial up my speed a little, but the result was that I had a lot of trouble running for very long.  As of yesterday morning it had been a couple months since I'd run an hour at a stretch, and I had a terrible morning, mood-wise.  I almost decided to take a mulligan and not go to the gym even though it was gym day.  But I ate homemade pizza and played a little Skyrim and felt a little better and decided to go after all.  And damned if I didn't run for an hour.  7.8 miles, the farthest I've ever run in an hour by a good quarter-mile.

Distance running is funny.  I can't predict how good a run is going to be before the fact.  Half the time I can't even tell after three miles whether I have another three miles in me.  But I continue to improve, and if I can just push my speed a little farther, I'll be on track for a sub-100-minute half-marathon when race season rolls around again.

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#93 | Back to Top07-08-2013 08:12:34 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Brian, what do you do for your distance running prep? Once you're getting to workouts of that magnitude, a lot of people will use various things like choline caps to replenish what the body is consuming. Though not as familiar, I believe runners will also carb load before runs? It might be the circumstances diet-wise leading up to your run that seem to be making it or breaking it for you.


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#94 | Back to Top07-08-2013 08:26:16 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Giovanna wrote:

Brian, what do you do for your distance running prep? Once you're getting to workouts of that magnitude, a lot of people will use various things like choline caps to replenish what the body is consuming. Though not as familiar, I believe runners will also carb load before runs? It might be the circumstances diet-wise leading up to your run that seem to be making it or breaking it for you.

Hmm!  I've never tried any supplements specifically for exercise.  I do take a multivitamin every day; it has a lot of stuff in it, but not choline.  I can tell you for sure that sleep and diet matter.  Neither of them is surefire, but on average I definitely run better after a good night's sleep and with carb-heavy food in my stomach -- most especially homemade pizza, though I've also had good luck with pasta.  In spite of that, I can do everything right and still have a disappointing workout, and then some days I can trudge to the gym on five hours' sleep and very little food and knock it out of the park.  p < .01, but R-squared is still only maybe 40%, if you take my meaning.

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#95 | Back to Top07-08-2013 09:28:24 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

satyreyes wrote:

a good night's sleep and with carb-heavy food in my stomach

Ah, carbs. emot-smile The pizza is probably working better for you because it has a variety of carb sources that release at different paces (glycemic index.) This is important for distance running because of the length of the exercise. Pasta on its own would be ideal for something like high intensity interval training, which is designed to bang out the workout in less than 45 minutes or so.

With pills (actually for serious users, the powders are about five thousand times cheaper, but to test how they work for you pills are fine.) There are TONS of pills that various lifters and runners use. I can post a list of them that I'd shamelessly steal from another forum, but overall I've only really found huge use for only a few. Though the research on any of these is less conclusive than 'Viagra gives you boners', they're actually pretty well researched as benefiting people who need them. Packing in grams of amino acids and shit isn't going to make your wussy 20 minutes of lazy cardio any more effective (seriously lady your makeup isn't even running.) You'll just pee it out because your body didn't need it. But if you're about to run for 2+ hours, or weight lift for power, there's more to gain.

Beta-Alanine - Blah blah helps with lactic acid removal in the muscle blah blah. This is used specifically for endurance in situations that would exhaust your muscle potentially before your heart-exhausted. For example, it won't do much for walking for three hours. But if you're running three hours, it'll help push your muscles to last longer. In weight lifting, it's the difference between me being able to do 3 sets of 8 reps and 4 sets, however it's not making me able to lift heavier weights in this endeavor. The effective dose is about 3g, and for efforts longer than an hour and a half, adding another gram or two halfway through is recommended. (You'll see quickly why the pills are a rip-off, 3g will take like 4 or 5 pills. The doses stated on the bottle are completely ineffective.) Beta-alanine can cause nausea, though I've not had that problem, and TINGLY EXTREMITIES. Yeah it's kinda weird and doesn't always happen but for some reason it just makes you work harder because you don't notice it if you're distracted.

Choline - A precursor to acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter that's just everywhere. Skeletal muscle relies on it, and extra access allows them to fire more effectively. Inversely, it has an inhibitory effect on the heart, slowing its rate--that sounds bad but it's actually quite favorable for training. Your heart will never beat too slowly to maintain you, but it'll beat slower than it would if you're freaking it out doing ridiculous cardio. The normal dose is 1.5g. This doesn't effect endurance in the same sense that bela-alanine does, but it keeps you mentally focused. You know that feeling near the end of a lot of working out where you're starting to mentally wander to your grocery list or masturbation? It helps with that, and in fact tends to make me a ridiculous machine in the gym. Sure Gio, you haven't done serious weights in ages so lets lift our maxes FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS. Without choline, I've found my workouts blow out about an hour in and I phone in whatever else I had left to do.

Caffeine - Self explanatory.

Ephedrine stacked with Caffeine - Ahem. This used to Dexatrim. It 'used' to be how truck drivers stayed awake for 20 hours on the road. It 'is' how I manage to crawl out of bed at 5am when everything about my body says I should have gone to bed 20 minutes ago and I just wanna die. 16 to 24mg of ephedrine (as in Bronkaid) stacked with 200mg of caffeine has a huge effect on energy and focus. It will also make your heart race and sometimes makes you nauseated. It's not fantastic for your heart in long term use. This is a prime case of the nurse that knows why she shouldn't do it thinking that awareness permits her to do so. That said, it's very, very popular among serious gym folk, and most anyone you see blasting it away in a gym is probably using it. JSYK, ephedrine is not legally sold in the US and Canada as anything but a decongestant. Canada doesn't restrict the amount you can by, though, just the dose in each pill. The US will take your addy and name when you buy Bronkaid. This is because ephedrine is a precursor to meth. So like, don't make meth with it. And don't try to buy 10 boxes of Bronkaid at once. Because then you're probably trying to make meth. Oh, I should add that this stack is also used extensively by nursing students and med students who don't know someone to buy Adderall off of. The energy it gives doesn't necessarily need to be spent working out. It'll also get you, productively, through a massive cram session. Note that there is absolutely nothing illegal about using the drug this way, the drug got pulled from most things because of the potential it had for making meth. It wasn't removed entirely from shelves because it's simply too effective at what it does for asthmatics and others with trouble breathing.

Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA) - This one may or may not benefit you depending on your goals. Unless you're trying to work out on an empty stomach, you actually take this after. (Amounts vary, 5-15g is the average.) It's one of the more scientifically proven ones, and it's used to help you recover (good for marathon running) and build muscle (for lifting.) Basically it's providing the components your body needs to recover from the beating you just gave it. Most lifters take it with protein powder, but protein powder is more of a muscle building thing and may be less useful than carb replenishment post workout. Pills are horrifyingly bad at giving you a useful dose. (Seriously they're like 1g every two pills.)


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#96 | Back to Top07-09-2013 02:48:52 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Wow, Gio, thank you for the help!  emot-aaa  I happen to have an appointment with my GP tomorrow.  I think I'll ask him about beta-alanine, choline, and BCAA, and see whether he thinks they should be on my menu.  If so, I get the fun job of figuring out whether my drugstore sells them or whether this is an Internet thing.  emot-biggrin

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#97 | Back to Top07-09-2013 02:53:10 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

You'll want to go to a GNC. emot-smile

Also, I've never heard a doctor not say that SUPPLEMENTS ARE BAD MKAY, even when I know them to use workout supplements I'm looking at you doc from my emerg practicum.


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#98 | Back to Top08-13-2013 08:48:23 PM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

Life lesson learned yet again: if you go on vacation and skip a couple weeks of workouts, you pretty much start from scratch. emot-gonk

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#99 | Back to Top08-14-2013 04:57:27 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

satyreyes wrote:

Life lesson learned yet again: if you go on vacation and skip a couple weeks of workouts, you pretty much start from scratch. emot-gonk

Heh, I'm more than a couple of weeks behind on workouts.emot-keke; Yeah, it will be fun to work myself up again...

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#100 | Back to Top08-14-2013 05:39:36 AM

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Re: Any gym rats here?

I'm finally getting back into the swing of things after a persistent elbow injury paired with a month and a half of physical therapy. I'm having to start really carefully with the weights to avoid reinjuring the elbow (it still has some pain, but not like it used to). On a positive note, my first attempt at jogging went really well. Made it 10 straight minutes (miracle for me) and my knees were okay (I also had PT on my IT band this spring).

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