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#101 | Back to Top03-03-2018 07:48:54 PM

Imaginary Bad Bug
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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

The new blu-ray sets were released individually, so you still can get the new high-def version of the series right away without all the bonus swag. It's just the ultimate collector's edition which is delayed until the rings can be remanufactured.

Blu-Ray Student Council Arc

Blu-Ray Black Rose Arc

Blu-Ray Apocalypse Arc (plus movie)


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#102 | Back to Top05-22-2018 02:28:08 PM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

It's finally happening...!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/999021320875708416

Nozomi Entertainment

@NozomiEnt

The Utena rings have arrived! We are currently in the process of assembling the sets and will be shipping these out in the next few weeks. http://nzani.me/rings


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#103 | Back to Top05-22-2018 05:29:00 PM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

IT'S BEEN 8000 YEARS


im a shadow play girl irl

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#104 | Back to Top05-23-2018 12:25:01 AM

Crabe
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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

Hell yeah! I had almost given up hope.

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#105 | Back to Top05-23-2018 04:23:12 AM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

KissFromARose wrote:

Tried to initiate the boyfriend into the Utena fold... he said it looked too dated for him and that it didn't age well.

Personally, I am of the belief that the series looks much better than modern (this decade) anime, the detailed artwork and animation is sadly not something you see anymore. Background characters actually have fully drawn faces rather than consisting of hastily drawn lines like is the case now or even worse, being animated by CG.
I was especially impressed when I first saw the scene of Utena walking up those stairs to the dueling area.

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#106 | Back to Top05-23-2018 03:11:55 PM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

As far as I'm concerned "dated" is (usually) a huge non-argument with a bunch of bad implications about art anyway


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#107 | Back to Top05-24-2018 10:17:05 AM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

I don't agree with criticizing art for calling it dated but I do understand why dated aspects could turn someone off. If you look at something like The Brothers Karamasov or any old literature it's undeniably dated, but it's still fantastic. However if someone doesn't enjoy it because they can't get into it then I totally understand. I think dated is definitely a loaded term, but I wish it didn't have such a negative connotation.

As far as Utena being dated, I think it's definitely got some 90's anime aspects (the humor mostly) but the story and characters are timeless. I also think it uses its dated aspects very well but I'm biased by my love for the series and anime tropes in general.

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#108 | Back to Top05-24-2018 11:02:37 AM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

I personally don't think anime can be compared to literature in this specific context. Literature can feel dated in the sense that the way people talk changes each generation. That is not so much an issue of age rather than a modern-day reader having a vocabulary so different from the writer that they might as well be speaking a different language. It's like not being able to enjoy a book that's written in French or Spanish because you barely have knowledge of those languages in the first place. The 90s however weren't that long ago though and I personally felt like the humor and character interaction is not very different from more recent shoujo shows or just anime in general. But the matter here was in fact the visuals, not the dialogue or some other aspect of the show and visuals are of course something literature lacks as well.

I don't think an anime can really look dated unless we're talking pre-70s, I understand that anime made today use brighter colors, making it seem like there's a sort of filter over it all the time (a good example of what I mean would be Kyoto Animation shows) and if you're used to seeing that all the time I can imagine it's a bit difficult to get into the rougher look of 90s anime. Still, like I said, the artwork itself and the animation are of much higher quality than shows coming out this season and probably any season of the last 10 years so I don't think it's fair to reject anything from that era because it looks old, if that even means anything.

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#109 | Back to Top05-24-2018 11:52:23 AM

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Re: Utena Blu-Ray Release in 2016

My example there probably was a little extreme given that there's a big difference between the 1990's and the 1890's, but I still think it can apply to a lesser extent. Even if Utena isn't dated now, one day it will be because like you said eventually the Japanese language will change or die out and who knows what visual media will look like in a hundred years. I take your point though about how referencing old literature as dated is more a case of not being able to understand it rather than a statement of its quality. I don't think it's a good idea to assume that media always improves over time and I definitely don't think this is the case with anime. I do think the word dated can refer to the distinct characteristics of a time period though and isn't necessarily negative. I also think having a preference for one period of time over another isn't wrong, though some people can definitely be close-minded.

I would say Utena definitely looks dated, but this is only because the art style Utena employs isn't very common today and was more common then. One day the current trend of how anime characters are designed will look dated as well. It's dated because you can infer its time of release from how it looks just like you could infer Brothers K is from the 1800's based on its writing style and content. Of course this method will never be completely accurate but it's impossible not to notice certain trends. I don't 100% agree with this image but I think it serves to get my point across.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SAq5XB25--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ackroygtnnhnithjkwrq.png

Of course when most people call something dated they mean it in a negative sense which I think is a lazy criticism. Instead of explaining why they dislike certain aspects (which may or may not have been common at the time of the work's release) they dismiss it offhandedly as old and therefore bad. Oftentimes people are closed off to media they see as dated without giving it a chance, but without knowing more about the boyfriend in question it's hard to say whether that's the case or whether he just has a strong preference against the 90's aesthetic and style. I guess what I'm trying to get across is that almost every piece of art will be dated given enough time and I don't see it as a bad thing.

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