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#1 | Back to Top08-26-2013 09:25:39 AM

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Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Hi, guys~

I'm currently writing my Guidance Counselor-centric fanfic, and need some info on the following characters:

Q1: Guidance Counselor

Does anyone have a complete episode listing of the Guidance Counselor's many appearances throughout the series?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Student_Council_Arc/01/Series_ep01_017.jpg?m=1380825418

Q2: Vice Principal

In EP07, Juri forced a man to date the Guidance Counselor:
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Student_Council_Arc/07/Series_ep07_013.jpg?m=1380827625

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Student_Council_Arc/07/Series_ep07_014-01.jpg?m=1380827671


Is he also the Vice Principal In EP30?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Akio_Arc/30/Series_ep30_007.jpg?m=1380823923

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Akio_Arc/30/Series_ep30_009.jpg?m=1380823924


Could he also, possibly, be the (corrupt?) man beside the professor bribing Mikage in EP14?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Black_Rose_Saga/14/Series_ep14_044.jpg?m=1380853281

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Black_Rose_Saga/14/Series_ep14_046.jpg?m=1380853281


Is the VP ever featured in other scenes throughout the series?


Q3: Music Teacher

Has he ever been featured/mentioned outside EP15?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Black_Rose_Saga/15/Series_ep15_011.jpg?m=1380853311


Q4: "Soccer Stud"

Is he a phy-ed teacher?  Which episodes have him in it on top of EP06?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Series/Episodes/Student_Council_Arc/06/Series_ep06_078.jpg?m=1380827598


Q5: Are there any more Ohtori staff member ever shown onscreen?  Are there any more mentioned in the characters' dialogue?


Help would be much, much appreciated!  Thanks in advance ~


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#2 | Back to Top08-26-2013 02:18:13 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the music teacher was ever in any other episode. He would only have been in the Miki episodes, and I checked the scripts-- episode 15 is the only one he has a speaking part in.

I also don't think the gym teacher shows up ever again.

gorgeousshutin wrote:

Q2: Vice Principal

In EP07, Juri forced a man to date the Guidance Counselor:
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380827625

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380827671


Is he also the Vice Principal In EP30?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380823923

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380823924


Could he also, possibly, be the (corrupt?) man beside the professor bribing Mikage in EP14?
http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380853281

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Se … 1380853281


Is the VP ever featured in other scenes throughout the series?

Gio and I have always taken the VP to be both the guy forced to date the guidance counselor and the VP in ep 30. He could very well be the same dude bribing Mikage; it would make sense, since he seems to be a gigantic dickbag. As far as whether he's in any other episodes, I don't think so but a rewatch is really the only way to be sure.


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#3 | Back to Top08-26-2013 10:03:53 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Will rewatch.  Thanks emot-keke


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#4 | Back to Top08-27-2013 12:10:36 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Yasha wrote:

Gio and I have always taken the VP to be both the guy forced to date the guidance counselor and the VP in ep 30. He could very well be the same dude bribing Mikage; it would make sense, since he seems to be a gigantic dickbag. As far as whether he's in any other episodes, I don't think so but a rewatch is really the only way to be sure.

The VP is definitely both the guy Juri scares off and the one in episode 30. He's even a consistently gross drooling pervert about the female students. (An amusing counterpoint to Akio, since they're actually coworkers at the administrative level--the only two you ever see, actually.)

Thinking about it now, I'm pretty sure he's not the one bribing Mikage, though. I'm basing that on this:

Professor:  So that was the charismatic high schooler who hosts the Mikage Seminar.
Professor:  What an overpowering presence! I was scared stiff.
Professor:  The Mikage Seminar, also known as the Black Rose Society...
Professor:  It's not just a rumor that there's even a career bureaucrat who's a member.
Professor:  As recipients of his favor, we college faculty can't say it's anyone else's business.

They describe themselves as college faculty. If you're going with the manga continuity, you could make an argument for him still being the VP, but overall I'd say probably not. If you really want to split hairs (don't you always?) the VP is the vice-president, again, an administrative position, where at least in North American English, faculty describes the teaching and research staff specifically. English outside of NA includes other definitions for it, but it seems pretty well maintained the faculty is a term that specifically excludes administrators.

As for the music teacher, I'm 99% sure you never see or hear of him again. Same for the gym teacher. The guidance counselor appears in episodes 1 and 30 for sure. I'm not sure if she shows up elsewhere.


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#5 | Back to Top08-27-2013 12:25:03 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Giovanna wrote:

Thinking about it now, I'm pretty sure he's not the one bribing Mikage, though. I'm basing that on this:

Professor:  So that was the charismatic high schooler who hosts the Mikage Seminar.
Professor:  What an overpowering presence! I was scared stiff.
Professor:  The Mikage Seminar, also known as the Black Rose Society...
Professor:  It's not just a rumor that there's even a career bureaucrat who's a member.
Professor:  As recipients of his favor, we college faculty can't say it's anyone else's business.

They describe themselves as college faculty. If you're going with the manga continuity, you could make an argument for him still being the VP, but overall I'd say probably not. If you really want to split hairs (don't you always?) the VP is the vice-president, again, an administrative position, where at least in North American English, faculty describes the teaching and research staff specifically. English outside of NA includes other definitions for it, but it seems pretty well maintained the faculty is a term that specifically excludes administrators.

Valid point.  Will avoid putting this in the fic.

As for the music teacher, I'm 99% sure you never see or hear of him again. Same for the gym teacher. The guidance counselor appears in episodes 1 and 30 for sure. I'm not sure if she shows up elsewhere.

The thing is . . . I somehow recall the gym teach showing up randomly throughout the show during the "ordinary-campus-atmosphere" portions in the episodes.  I'm pretty sure he's also either in EP 37 and/or Ep 39, but can't be sure until a rewatch.

As for GC, she's in Ep 1, Ep7(Juri one), Ep Cowbell, Ep30 . . . and I'm just not sure if she shows up in other parts too, since her presence somehow feels . . . prominent throughout the show.

Thing is, the Ohtori Staff are all unnamed, so it's impossible to locate them by script.  Have to rewatch the whole series to be sure, I guess . . .


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#6 | Back to Top08-27-2013 01:57:07 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

I have some rewatching to do as well, so I'll post what eps I rewatch and whether there's any staff in them. Hopefully that will help out some.


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#7 | Back to Top09-05-2013 05:10:59 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

The Sega Saturn game gives us Tsuji-sensei, The Teacher Who Has Worked At Ohtori The Longest (and who otherwise has little personality.) I think he's a high school teacher, but I'm not sure that's made explicitly clear. There's also the Protagonist's Father, but he hadn't worked at Ohtori for fifteen years or so.

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#8 | Back to Top09-05-2013 07:13:50 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Oh . . . I knew very little (actually, none) about the games, so thanks for telling me about this, Dallbun emot-biggrin

Hmm . . . let's see if I could add this into the fic . . .


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#9 | Back to Top09-07-2013 06:53:09 PM

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Re: Plot info on Ohtori's staff, anyone?

Okay, Gio and I just rewatched eps 25 and 30 (shut up I know there are other episodes too emot-mad), and I can confirm for certain that the counselor calls that dude the VP in episode 30. There are no other staff members or mentions of in either of those episodes.


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