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#226 | Back to Top02-07-2015 03:33:59 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

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Imagine Dragons - On Top Of The World (Official Music Video)

(Probably not a reference to YKA, but this pattern is experiencing a surge in popularity)

EDIT: I was bored so I vectored this and made a crappy wallpaper.

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#227 | Back to Top02-09-2015 12:23:23 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Both YKA and whatever that is are referencing The Shining movie.


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#228 | Back to Top02-09-2015 02:16:12 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

I figured as much from it being already pointed out in this very thread and thought it pointless to mention again, but yeah, The Shining.
I just noticed the pattern was being done a lot recently. Sorry, I know it has nothing to do with YKA and I'm derailing.

whatever that is

It's a music video emot-keke, says so below the image. The artist and song name are also written below the image.
I don't listen to the band  myself, but it was suggested and I saw the pattern in the thumbnail so I checked it out.

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#229 | Back to Top02-09-2015 02:59:29 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Make sure you watch episode 6 all the way to the end for KUMA SHOCKS.

Ok, wow. Lots of kuma shocks this episode. It looks like the theory that[ Ginko's crime was eating another bear] might be true. Also, kudos to Sumika for [not mentioning the name of Kureha's new friend. I like how she left it open. "The person standing in front of you". It is subtle, but this is Ikuhara. She gave Kureha the choice to choose who her new friend is.]

Question: Why does Kureha refer to Sumika as her friend, and not her love, her lover, her girlfriend, etc.? I have been pondering that.

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#230 | Back to Top02-09-2015 03:04:19 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Episode 6 was amazing.

Random thoughts and KUMA SHOCKS:
[- Lady Kumaria seems to have bear ears among other things.
- Kaoru has a thing with the teacher (pretty sure that's who it is) but is Kaoru a bear? I'm thinking probably not. Yuri Dark first appeared with Mitsuko and Eriko, who was human. Seems parallel to that scene.
- Yuriika also knew Ginko and Lulu were bears, I've no doubt now that she's a bear too.
- Yuriika seems to be behind these things and appears to have a plan
- The park where Ginko and Lulu hide is practically next to the school building but nobody finds them.
- Bears are perfectly capable of using smartphones lol
- Creepiest birthday party ever. Lily BBQ, anyone hungry?
- Instead of Kureha, Ginko is the one receiving calls from the bear bros now.
- So did Sumika give up on her relationship with Kureha because she didn't want Kureha to suffer if the Invisible Storm did something to her? Sumika dying would have been the most tragic thing for Kureha but the storm didn't cause it after all. It happened because Mitsuko was hungry. However, even giving up the relationship, she didn't back down on her love because that's what her motives were.
- Apparently one of Ginko's crimes was letting Mitsuko eat Sumika?
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#231 | Back to Top02-09-2015 06:54:22 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

About episode 6, [I think that Ginko's crime was indeed letting Sumika be eaten. If so, I can hardly wait until Kureha finds out, wouldn't that be something. I liked how Sumika was fleshed out some and loved how she went against the Invisible Storm by not picking Kureha during the Exclusion Ceremony. She is still something of a 'meh' character to me but at least I have a more defined idea of who she was.
Also, Ginko's legs twitching while she's caught in the bear trap really freaked me out.
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#232 | Back to Top02-09-2015 09:05:27 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

YamPuff wrote:

Question: Why does Kureha refer to Sumika as her friend, and not her love, her lover, her girlfriend, etc.? I have been pondering that.

Given some of the meta-commentaries this show has been doing, as well as some of the people working on it, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be mocking the fact that so many yuri works don't actually use any words other than friend in a serious context. Another example of the show mocking this is the teacher's portrait of Kureha's mom, which is captioned "Yuri Friends". Yeah... just friends, but they're yuri friends!

[Kaoru and Yuriika are totally The New Touga and The New Akio. Also, I'm assuming the angelic being in the intro is supposed to be Lady Kumalia, or whoever her equivalent is in the "real" world, if its not just Lady Kumalia.]

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#233 | Back to Top02-09-2015 09:21:40 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

This episode was just so much.

I am very happy that my initial theory about [Sumika being the previous victim on the Invisible Storm] was right, even if I didn't foresee exactly how that came about. I'm still really confused as to why the Invisible Storm exists though. It feels like maybe the Invisible Storm exists to be exclusionary. You can't have good people without evil to validate your "goodness"; they exist as a dichotomy.

I know this episode was supposed to be where Sumika really got her backstory and developed as a character, but I still think she's a little flat. I would like to see more about her. Although I wonder if we'll really see much more of her now...

The part with [Kaoru] in bed with someone (in a room that seems to be constructed of nothing but drapery) was really just so parallel to the scene with Shiori in the movie that I can't help but think it's definitely NOT [Yuriika]. Maybe I was wrong about [Mitsuko being dead, because it seems more likely that she's still around (the only flashback she was present in was the last one after the credits)].

Seeing the Judgemens outside the court was SO GOOD. Shabadado.

EDIT:
Also, do we think that the flashbacks confirm that [Sumika and Kureha had a sexual relationship? They are in bed together as they read Reia's story, and there are no bra straps like there were in the fireplace scene.]

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#234 | Back to Top02-09-2015 09:46:58 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Sensual at least.


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#235 | Back to Top02-09-2015 10:39:33 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Arale wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

Question: Why does Kureha refer to Sumika as her friend, and not her love, her lover, her girlfriend, etc.? I have been pondering that.

Given some of the meta-commentaries this show has been doing, as well as some of the people working on it, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be mocking the fact that so many yuri works don't actually use any words other than friend in a serious context. Another example of the show mocking this is the teacher's portrait of Kureha's mom, which is captioned "Yuri Friends". Yeah... just friends, but they're yuri friends!

I think you are right about everyone being tomodachi'd like there is no tomorrow. It is also interesting that the word for 'love' they almost always (maybe even always? Apart from Mirun's 'Ai' box) use is 'suki'. I do not think I've ever heard 'suki' used in such a manner, 'watashi no suki' sounds really odd.

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#236 | Back to Top02-09-2015 11:04:21 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

I think that's supposed to be a pun with "kisu". Suki, kisu. They were presented as equal forces during Princess Lulu's yuri trial ("will you give up on suki or kisu?") so.


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#237 | Back to Top02-10-2015 12:27:13 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Good episode!  It was interesting, the storybook  kind of reminded me a little of the goddess story from Penguindrum. Not in theme of the story, but the way it was presented.
 
[I guess next week we'll finally get Ginko and Lulu on friendly terms with Kureha, which I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to it! Last week's episode endeared me to Kureha/Ginko, but it's going to hurt a lot when Kureha finds out that Ginko saw Sumika getting eaten and just stood by and did nothing. She's going to be mad. Hopefully that's further down the road though. ]

I loved this:

https://31.media.tumblr.com/93d9a94dd5c2b704cfec1606c44fd73e/tumblr_njirj7zjpa1qad8qko1_500.gif

#swagbear, #dealwithit

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#238 | Back to Top02-10-2015 01:58:16 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Nocturnalux wrote:

Arale wrote:

YamPuff wrote:

Question: Why does Kureha refer to Sumika as her friend, and not her love, her lover, her girlfriend, etc.? I have been pondering that.

Given some of the meta-commentaries this show has been doing, as well as some of the people working on it, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be mocking the fact that so many yuri works don't actually use any words other than friend in a serious context. Another example of the show mocking this is the teacher's portrait of Kureha's mom, which is captioned "Yuri Friends". Yeah... just friends, but they're yuri friends!

I think you are right about everyone being tomodachi'd like there is no tomorrow. It is also interesting that the word for 'love' they almost always (maybe even always? Apart from Mirun's 'Ai' box) use is 'suki'. I do not think I've ever heard 'suki' used in such a manner, 'watashi no suki' sounds really odd.

I also noted the very awkward use of 'suki'. Interesting concept, as it's obvious they are using the word deliberately rather than love/lover.

Yuri friends = lily friends = TOTALLY PURE LOVE AMIRITE school-devilschool-devilschool-devil
No shenanigans going on here.

The black lilies freak me out a little.


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#239 | Back to Top02-10-2015 10:51:27 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

I think you're all on the right track regarding Ginko's crime. But there's one thing you're missing. [She was a criminal bear before she crossed over to the human world with Lulu. Witnessing Sumika's death definitely made things worse but the original crime was linked to the death of Kureha's mother Reia.]


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#240 | Back to Top02-10-2015 12:13:53 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Flah wrote:

I think you're all on the right track regarding Ginko's crime. But there's one thing you're missing. [She was a criminal bear before she crossed over to the human world with Lulu. Witnessing Sumika's death definitely made things worse but the original crime was linked to the death of Kureha's mother Reia.]

Also I don't think her crime simply being [watching makes sense. If it's ok for bears to eat people, it should be ok for bears to watch others eating people. It may be a 'crime' towards her love for Kureha, but that would be a personal crime and not a crime to the Bear Jury. Or would it? I dunno. I just don't think that's the actual crime, there has to be more.]


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#241 | Back to Top02-10-2015 02:33:00 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

[Well, the Separation Court judges on the idea of love, so a personal crime against someone you love could very well be the sort of thing that would tick them off.

Side note: they seem to hold a role similar to the Lady Kumelia in the fairy tale, could the destruction of Kumelia and the establishment of the separation court be linked?  Could it have to do with whenever Ginko and Kureha met before?  Remember, Lola said that Ginko had already lost her love once, so…  something happened back then.

Really, let me ponder some more on that.  I have a theory, and I don't know what I think of it, that the explosion/meteor shower/bears eating people thing was all part of the same event, and it had to do with the transformation of Lady Kumelia into the Separation Court.  Possibly this corresponded symbolically to the Girl from the Forest and the Girl of the Moon smashing the mirror, i.e: taking some sort of risk to affirm their connection to one another, since that's the last we've heard of Lady Kumelia so far.  Also and/or alternatively, the mirror smash moment might have been what separated Ginko and Kureha before, and somehow related to Reia's death. 

Possibly one of them smashed the mirror and the other didn't, and that's why they were separated?  It certainly underlines the idea of love as a sort of prisoners' dilemma, which… I seem to remember Sanetoshi going on about something like that in Penguindrum, and it certainly shows up a lot in Evangelion.  Eeeeeh.
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#242 | Back to Top02-10-2015 04:17:38 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

And I really doubt Ginko could have [stopped Mitsuko anyway. Maybe it's just me, but due to Ginko and Lulu having somewhat silly antics compared to Mitsuko's serious and seductive approaches to eating people, it feels to me that Mitsuko is probably much stronger a baer than Ginko. If Ginko had tried to stop Mitsuko, maybe Sumika could have gotten away for now, but Mitsuko would still get her eventually, and Sumika was already planning on being sacrificed. So it can't really be a crime, if she wouldn't have been able to be that effective anyway.]


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#243 | Back to Top02-11-2015 01:39:03 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Arale wrote:

And I really doubt Ginko could have [stopped Mitsuko anyway. Maybe it's just me, but due to Ginko and Lulu having somewhat silly antics compared to Mitsuko's serious and seductive approaches to eating people, it feels to me that Mitsuko is probably much stronger a baer than Ginko. If Ginko had tried to stop Mitsuko, maybe Sumika could have gotten away for now, but Mitsuko would still get her eventually, and Sumika was already planning on being sacrificed. So it can't really be a crime, if she wouldn't have been able to be that effective anyway.]

I don't think that's the point, though. [In other words, even if Ginko couldn't have stopped Mitsuko it is still very relevant how she does not even try. Given Ginko's personality and the way she rushes into danger regardless of her personal safety like how she jumped into the burning lilies, her passive behavior must have an explanation apart from a disparity in strength. As far as I see it, it's a sin because down deep (or even not even that deep, actually) Ginko wanted something like that happen because it puts Sumika out of the picture and thus leaves Kureha 'free', so to speak, to fall in love with someone else, namely Ginko. There might even be some guilt involved, too.]

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#244 | Back to Top02-15-2015 01:43:51 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

This was on Tumblr and made me gigglesnort very loudly. emot-rofl

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#245 | Back to Top02-16-2015 03:50:48 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Episode 7. Well, I can honestly say this show is not what I expected, not that I had really strong expectations for an Ikuhara anime about lesbians and bears. Still. I can't say I know where it's all headed.

This was so pretty! http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/ … g~original etc-love


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#246 | Back to Top02-16-2015 06:06:35 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!


OMG WHYYYYYYYYY emot-gonk
emot-roflemot-roflemot-rofl

OK that Tumbrl post is the best thing since sliced bread.

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#247 | Back to Top02-16-2015 07:44:15 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Very pretty moments in episode 7, indeed. [But that cliffhanger at the end! It's killing me. By the looks of it we'll be finding out just what Ginko's crime was in the next episode but who knows maybe it'll be another flashback or something else entirely.]

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#248 | Back to Top02-17-2015 06:08:15 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Noooooooooooooo http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/ … a60aaa.png   emot-frownemot-gonk ;____; I can't deal with this, damn you Ikuhara


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#249 | Back to Top02-17-2015 02:32:09 PM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

Laughing hard at this post:
http://4kidsentertainmentoffcial.tumblr … ant-planet

This week's ep was nice. I'm glad we got Ginko's backstory finally. Poor baby bear. D:

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#250 | Back to Top02-18-2015 04:55:34 AM

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Re: New Ikuhara anime!

http://4kidsentertainmentoffcial.tumblr … ant-planet
LOL Lily bear friends. If they cut out enough of each episode and slice it together to be a two-part special, it may even work.


OK for anyone who has read/is reading the manga, can you share some non-spoilery information with me? Is it completed or ongoing? How similar/ dissimilar is it to the anime? Worth a read? Would it be good to read the manga alongside the anime, or would that spoil things? I aware the questions I'm asking are all highly subjective, but I would like someone's POV. emot-dance Please do share.


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