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#326 | Back to Top11-14-2012 08:27:06 PM

onsenmark
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Dear Bangladesh,

If you read this, then kindly sod off.

Thanks,

the denizens of IRG.


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#327 | Back to Top12-20-2012 03:15:36 AM

satyreyes
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I'm getting a lot of "500 Internal Server Error" messages when I browse the forum.  They're fixed by reloading, but often there's a long load time.  Anyone else, or just me?

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#328 | Back to Top12-20-2012 03:23:18 AM

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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I had one a moment ago, yes.


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#329 | Back to Top12-20-2012 08:10:29 AM

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From: Yuma, Arizona (USA)
Registered: 11-26-2006
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I've been having lots of 500 internal server errors too, satyr. I vaguely recall them starting for me a few days back, and they were definitely there yesterday. I thought it was a fluke on my end, but if others are experiencing it than at least I can know that it wasn't just me. :/


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#330 | Back to Top12-20-2012 11:34:21 AM

onsenmark
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Yeah, I've been getting 500 server errors as well.


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#331 | Back to Top12-20-2012 11:38:52 AM

satyreyes
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I'll make sure Gio knows.  If the problem turns out to be on her side and not on the hosting company's side, it may take a while; she's facing some technical hurdles on her end.

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#332 | Back to Top12-20-2012 04:35:01 PM

Azure
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

This isn't a forum issue but is anyone having MAJOR glitches in the gallery? I've been going in there for reference images but on any one page there are usually several images that refuse to display. Refreshing sometimes brings some of them back up but none of them are all up at the same time.


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#333 | Back to Top12-21-2012 04:18:16 PM

Aine Silveria
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From: Allegan, MI
Registered: 11-03-2006
Posts: 2098

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Issues with the gallery are a perennial issue related to the scale of it and how awesome Giovanna tried to make it. There's naught to be done but tolerate it, as far as I can tell.


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#334 | Back to Top01-21-2013 09:49:28 PM

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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Kinda yeah. emot-frown

So long story short, about a month ago we had some hilarious massive hard drive fails where we lost two inside of a week, and this included all the data for Empty Movement, including the gallery, forum, and site code. We've been working on scanning the extra drives for possible scraps of the site, and we've finally been successful in pulling most of the data. I'll be spending the next while trying to piece together the files for the site and gallery, which number in the 30,000. emot-gonk

So yeah. It's not that I'm not around or that I'm ignoring the site. I'm just trying to put it back together. emot-frown


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#335 | Back to Top01-22-2013 07:54:00 AM

BioKraze
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From: Yuma, Arizona (USA)
Registered: 11-26-2006
Posts: 8280

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

*blink blink*

Well.

That seems like an actual forum meltdown to me. Ouch. emot-frown

But I have faith in you, Ends of the Forum, as I'm sure many of us do. emot-keke


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#336 | Back to Top01-27-2013 04:15:54 PM

satyreyes
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Okay.  This is a mythical glitch.  You are not even going to believe this.  It is the bizarrest glitch ever.

I was trying to make a post to my Conformity thread over in SIL, and I wanted to say that it was difficult to predict what the community would come together on.  But no matter what I did, the post wouldn't post.  I got a Not Acceptable error every time I tried.  I could post other replies, but I couldn't edit them to read what I wanted to say.

So I tried to post just the first sentence.  And that was fine.

Then I added the next sentence.  That was fine too.

So I'm like, okay, it was a freak glitch and now it's over, and I tried to post the whole thing.  Nope!!  Not Acceptable.

I ended up finishing the post by editing it in word by word.  You are not going to believe what I found.

The problem is the word I was using for "come together."  The word starts with COALESC and ends with E.  It turns out that this word cannot be posted on IRG.  You get a Not Acceptable error every time, in any thread you try to do it in.  Try it right now.

Yeah.

So what the fuck?  emot-biggrin

Edit: It turns out that the taboo C-word is used as an SQL command.  This has got to have something to do with the problem, but if there's one thing a server should not be doing, it's scanning user input for server commands.  That way lies haxx.

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#337 | Back to Top01-28-2013 06:13:56 AM

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Registered: 10-19-2006
Posts: 4632

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I'm sort of surprised that this hasn't come up before. I mean... we're a fairly intelligent bunch. And in all the years the forum has been up, we've never used that word?


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#338 | Back to Top01-28-2013 09:57:40 AM

rhyaniwyn
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From: Tallahassee, FL
Registered: 11-09-2006
Posts: 684
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

satyreyes wrote:

but if there's one thing a server should not be doing, it's scanning user input for server commands.  That way lies haxx.

That's precisely why it's not letting you post it; it's not scanning for commands, more likely, it's trying to prevent SQL injection. 

Each post gets stored in the database.  That means all user input becomes part of an SQL statement.  Simple example:

Code:

-- INSERT INTO posts VALUES ('username', 'datetime', 'postid', 'Escaped string of user input');

If the user input is a valid SQL command, say:

Code:

-- '); DELETE * FROM posts;

The resultant query could be:

Code:

-- INSERT INTO posts VALUES ('username', 'datetime', 'postid', ''); DELETE * FROM posts; ');

Which, in absence of other factors, would result an error or successful partially empty INSERT, a full DELETE of the posts table, then an error.  But the hacker has successfully accomplished his or her mischief.

It's a basic hack that relies on a basic understanding of SQL syntax and how simple web scripts handle POSTed user input.  Nevertheless, there are a dozen other ways to protect against injection beyond disallowing SQL keywords (for example, bound parameters).  Especially when you consider how many other simple words we use every day that are also the names of keywords or functions.

I've never coded for a transactional DB before, so there may be some unique (another SQL keyword) consideration with "coalesc(e)".

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#339 | Back to Top01-28-2013 12:41:08 PM

satyreyes
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Rhy, I love that explanation.  That makes sense -- and shows how little I know about SQL emot-biggrin  But what a terribly clumsy way to solve the problem!  You're right, there must be some special behavior with c0alesce that somehow makes it hard to block by whatever the usual method is; IRG doesn't object to my posting "drop" or "execute" or "dump" or other SQL keywords.

Mocha, that surprises me too -- so much that I actually did a Google search to see if we've really never used that word here.  It turns out we have!  Frau Eva did it in a post in 2006, less than a month after the forum opened.  We've patched a couple times since then, so it seems likely that the behavior got added in a patch.

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#340 | Back to Top01-28-2013 08:53:51 PM

Yasha
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From: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Registered: 10-15-2006
Posts: 6018
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

We've contacted them about this issue, but it looks like it may be a "feature" and not something we can get around.

We were on a different server in 2006 and may not have been subject to the same "features." emot-mad


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#341 | Back to Top01-28-2013 10:10:15 PM

satyreyes
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

"Features?"  I would like to see their advertising materials.

- Unlimited storage space!
- Unlimited bandwidth!
- cPanel built in!
- Can't use the word "coale5ce!"

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#342 | Back to Top02-08-2013 01:48:08 PM

Giovanna
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Registered: 10-12-2006
Posts: 8731
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

coalesce. emot-smile

It was flagged as a possible SQL hole, so they patched it or something. Should all be good. emot-smile

The recovery of my data appears to be largely successful. I now have to go through all my old shit and sort through and make sure none of the files are corrupt, or what is is hopefully not important. emot-frown


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#343 | Back to Top03-27-2013 10:30:13 PM

onsenmark
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Sometimes when I post, I get this error:

Error: Unable to update user.

I mean, the post is THERE, it just doesn't send me to it or anything.

lolwut emot-confused


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#344 | Back to Top03-28-2013 11:58:24 AM

BioKraze
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Registered: 11-26-2006
Posts: 8280

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Getting lots of 500 server errors again. Not sure if it's my computer, but they ARE annoying.

Thought I'd give everybody a heads up, in case it means something bad. *nods*


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#345 | Back to Top03-28-2013 04:47:03 PM

The_Lame_Goat
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From: Narnia
Registered: 11-13-2012
Posts: 133

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

I've also had those 500 server messages.


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#346 | Back to Top03-29-2013 09:10:12 PM

Giovanna
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Posts: 8731
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Odd. I'll look into it. emot-smile


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#347 | Back to Top08-08-2013 12:31:31 PM

The_Lame_Goat
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From: Narnia
Registered: 11-13-2012
Posts: 133

Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Just now I've gotten two "Internal Server Error", one trying to post (but it got through) and the other trying to get to the Index.


Oh treachery!

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#348 | Back to Top08-08-2013 12:56:39 PM

Yasha
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Registered: 10-15-2006
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

Yeah, I've been getting them too, ever since our server changed. I'll ask Gio to take a look.


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#349 | Back to Top08-08-2013 04:27:41 PM

Giovanna
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

The servers are going to come down for maintenance on Sunday, probably three hours or so. I'm hoping that's the problem and they're going to magic it away, but I'll work on troubleshooting if it persists beyond. emot-smile


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#350 | Back to Top08-09-2013 05:13:57 PM

Giovanna
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From: Edmonton, AB
Registered: 10-12-2006
Posts: 8731
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Re: Report layout glitches, bugs, and forum meltdowns here!

So things come full circle. I'm going to rebuild the gallery.

As HTML. emot-rolleyes Like I did the first time. Ten years ago.

I've been completely unable to fix the gallery in any meaningful or permanent way. And broken shit on my website pisses me off. So over the next X period of time I'm going to be working on that. It won't be as sexy or as awesome, but it will work. And be permanently usable because no matter how many html files you have, you don't overload the server using them because there's only ever one query at a time, and there's no database to maul.

The unfortunate side effect is that all links to the old one will come down. That's lame. I really wish I could avoid it, but being as those links almost never work anyway, it's just how it'll have to be.

As for forum, like I said, gonna see how the work over the weekend goes. But I'm worried that the forum is getting too large for punBB. I've never pruned it.


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