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#1 | Back to Top11-16-2006 09:09:31 AM

Maarika
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Movies

What's this? We have numerous anime threads but not one for movies! As much as I like watching anime I still think there are quite a few non-anime movies out there that are worth watching.

While I tend to watch and enjoy different films, I consider my favourites the ones which are quite thought-provoking and show you the darker sides of human mind. And symbolism and surrealism is always a good addition to me. etc-love

Some of my favourites:
"Requiem For A Dream" Darren Aronofsky is one of my favourite directors and the way he shows the nature of addiction in this movie is just brilliant. This film is about different kinds of addictions, but mostly drug-addiction, and the way how the addiction takes over one's life. You can clearly see the fall down the spiral of destruction and in my opinion, this movie has one of the greatest climaxes I've ever seen. Plus, the soundtrack is a masterpiece on its own.  This is a sort of movie that you wouldn't especially want to watch more than once since it gets quite disturbing in the end and that's just enough to get the message across.

"The Wall" - Pink Floyd
This is something I saw recently. I'm not a Pink Floyd fan but it's nice to see that there are bands who make movies such as this. And by that I mean good movies, because this movie struck me as a work of art. All the symbolism in it instantly reminded me of Utena. Of course the themes are different and therefore the symbols too, but the way the concept is being shown is similiar. I just love this kind of movies, you can think about them endlessly and come up with new thoughts all the time.


Now you share/recommend/whatever some movies!


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#2 | Back to Top11-16-2006 09:35:00 AM

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Re: Movies

Maarika wrote:

Some of my favourites:
"Requiem For A Dream" Darren Aronofsky is one of my favourite directors and the way he shows the nature of addiction in this movie is just brilliant. This film is about different kinds of addictions, but mostly drug-addiction, and the way how the addiction takes over one's life. You can clearly see the fall down the spiral of destruction and in my opinion, this movie has one of the greatest climaxes I've ever seen. Plus, the soundtrack is a masterpiece on its own.  This is a sort of movie that you wouldn't especially want to watch more than once since it gets quite disturbing in the end and that's just enough to get the message across.

I agree. One of the best soundtracks of all time. I agree also that I don't know how many times I could watch the movie over and over. It was seriously disturbing. I loved the mother character though. There are so many films about young people's addiction but rarely about the average middle-aged person who leads a dull, disappointing life and gets sucked into addiction.

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#3 | Back to Top11-16-2006 10:12:47 AM

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Re: Movies

Sara was my favourite character too. It was so shocking to see the thin line between her 'normal' life and the addiction which changed everything.
Btw, has anyone read the novel?
Also, "Perfet Blue" has a few scenes identical to RFAD. When I first saw "Perfect Blue" I kept wondering why it reminded me of RFAD. Come out that Aronofsky bought the film rights for "Perfect Blue" and he used some of its scenes in RFAD.


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#4 | Back to Top11-16-2006 12:59:52 PM

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Re: Movies

Heh. Never seen Requiem. I'm not much of a drama-movie person.

My personal favorites: Brotherhood of the Wolf, in it's original French. The English translation is awesome, but.... I just like French. The storyline is pretty terrific, and it has one of my all-time favorite pieces of weaponry. I want that sword.

Amelie. I may not like dramas, but I'm a sucker for pretty romance. And, once again, a French movie. The music is great, and I just got the CD for my birthday.  The color schemes of the filming, all warm orangey glowing, and the actual cinematography.... It's one I could watch over and over again.

Il Mare. Yet another pretty romance, Japanese (or Korean.... I know it's Asian, but I fail to remember what Asian country specifically), with a sort of sci-fi twist. It was recently remade into The Lake House in the US, but I think the original is just a touch better. Either way, the cinematography is also awesome, with the ways they get the two characters on screen at the same time despite the time-difference... emot-keke

The Fifth Element. Oddly enough, I don't even know WHY I adore this movie so much. I just do.


Oh, and just about any movie with Mr. Depp in it. etc-wankgirl


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#5 | Back to Top11-16-2006 01:42:27 PM

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Re: Movies

I think my two favorite movies are Amelie and the The Princess Bride.  I love the fantastical feeling to Amelie.  It's so subtle, but it's there.  Not to mention Audrey Tatou's wonderful performance.  And as for The Princess Bride, it's really just a movie I've loved since I was a child.  So many cute moments, so many cheesy moments, and of course, Andre the Giant.

...I also dig Return of the Jedi.  Wedge Antilles rocks my world.

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#6 | Back to Top11-16-2006 01:57:15 PM

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It's an undebatable fact that the greatest movie of all time is Ghostbusters!

It is the pinnacle of mankind's achievement. etc-love


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#7 | Back to Top11-16-2006 02:21:07 PM

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Ragnarok wrote:

It's an undebatable fact that the greatest movie of all time is Ghostbusters!

It is the pinnacle of mankind's achievement. etc-love

But are you the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper??? school-devil

I love the epics: The Godfather, Star Wars (in order V, IV, VI, III, II, I), Lord of the Rings, the James Cameron oeuvre. And then if I'm home sick or something, I'm a sucker for the sappy miniseries like Shogun or Thorn Birds. I am disappointed in most romantic comedies though and I'm not big on slapstick, stupid comedies much either, I like action movies better.

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#8 | Back to Top11-16-2006 03:36:58 PM

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Well, my alltime favorite movie is Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind.  Everything about that movie works just right for me.  The science fiction and drama are balanced just right, and John Williams' score is one of his best.  This movie has been my alltime favorite for as long as I can remember.  Nothing's ever topped it for me.

I'm also a fan of the "big series": Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter (Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorite of the bunch so far), .... Back to the Future emot-biggrin

Along with Spielberg, Tim Burton is one of my favorite directors, especially movies like Edward Scissorhands and Big Fish.

On the lesser-known end of things, Niki Caro's Whale Rider is one of my favorites too.  Luc Besson's Léon (not the cut down The Professional, which I've never seen and never plan to) is another great movie.

How could I forget Labyrinth?!  emot-confused Shame on me!

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#9 | Back to Top11-16-2006 04:23:00 PM

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Re: Movies

There is a number of movies that I like a lot but there are a few films that I enjoy most:

A number of films that starred Terence Hill and Bud Spencer such as:
Odds and Evens
Crime Busters
Watch Out, We're Mad
Double Trouble


An obscure Hitchcock film called Rope.

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#10 | Back to Top11-16-2006 08:04:56 PM

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Re: Movies

Casablanca, Secretary, A Knight's Tale (that is such a ridiculously guilty pleasure. I hate myself for liking it), Sabrina (the original. Harrison Ford could NEVER fill Bogie's shoes!), Hatari!, The Godfather (I'm a good Italian girl), Fight Club, The Royal Tenenbaums...aaah...I could probably go on. Anything with Jack Lemmon, Humphrey Bogart, Claude Rains, Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant, Peter O'Toole, Katharine Hepburn or John Wayne makes me happy.

I live for Old Hollywoodland.


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#11 | Back to Top11-16-2006 10:14:15 PM

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Re: Movies

Are we talking good movies:

Guns of the Navarone
Unforgiven
Bladerunner
Star Wars
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Crow
China Town
Godfather
Millers Crossing
Se7en
Every Indiana Jones film
Usual Suspects
The Last Emperor
Twelve Monkeys
Memento
American Beauty
Resevior Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Man on Fire
Heavan and Earth
Jurassic Park
Dr Strangelove
Addams Family
Fight Club
Grease
The King and I (musical w/Yul Brynner)
The Magnificent Seven
Solaris (the original Soviet version, not George Clooney's)
Willow
The Crow
Last of the Mohicans
Akira
it goes on like this...

Or movies that we think are good, (guilty little pleasures)
Johnny Mnemonic
The Prophecy
End of Days
Demolition Man
Jade
Matchmaker
Man in the Iron Mask
Robin Hood:Prince of Thieves
Rob Roy
Killing Zoe
Love & a .45
Love is a Gun
Love and Human Remains
The Pillow Book (with Vivian Wu and Ewan McGregor, very HOT!!)
Mystery Men
The Mask
this one could actually go on longer...

You know, I think I may have seen too many movies.


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#12 | Back to Top11-17-2006 04:21:10 AM

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Re: Movies

Brazil and The Fisher King are really the only two movies with a special place in my heart.

I have a thing for Terry Gilliam, I think.


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#13 | Back to Top11-17-2006 05:37:35 AM

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Re: Movies

Ragnarok wrote:

It's an undebatable fact that the greatest movie of all time is Ghostbusters!

It is the pinnacle of mankind's achievement. etc-love

YES! I must have seen Ghostbusters 2 about 100 times and know it line for line. 

Blade runner is a damn good film.
I also liked The Prestige which I saw recently. Or maybe that was just to see the majesty of Hugh Jassman. And David Bowie. Wah-ooooh (obligatory Bowie sounds).

I like West Side Story too and Bugsy Malone. Musicals are definitly my guilty pleasure.

I know someone who actually likes the film 'Congo'. That has to be the guiltiest pleasure ever because its sooooooooooo bad.


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#14 | Back to Top11-17-2006 06:43:51 AM

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Cerise wrote:

I think my two favorite movies are Amelie and the The Princess Bride.  I love the fantastical feeling to Amelie.  It's so subtle, but it's there.  Not to mention Audrey Tatou's wonderful performance.  And as for The Princess Bride, it's really just a movie I've loved since I was a child.  So many cute moments, so many cheesy moments, and of course, Andre the Giant.

...I also dig Return of the Jedi.  Wedge Antilles rocks my world.

How on Earth did I forget to mention Millenium Actress?  It's one of the most intriguing movies I've seen--to the point that halfway through I forgot that I was watching animation. emot-keke;

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#15 | Back to Top11-17-2006 09:03:09 PM

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_ J _  wrote:

Movies that we think are good, (guilty little pleasures)

Taking Care of Business
This movie was pretty old already in time I got around to watching it but for some reason I have watched this movie at least a dozen times or more.

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#16 | Back to Top11-17-2006 09:19:54 PM

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GUILTY PLEASURES WOO.

I've seen Blues Brothers and Full Metal Jacket both over a dozen times.

I think I'm kind of proud of this. Both of those films cheer me up like crazy for some reason.

EDIT: Oh and Mystery Men too, but largely because I'm obsessed with Tom Waits and he makes the best mad inventor ever.

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#17 | Back to Top11-18-2006 09:07:23 PM

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Re: Movies

morosemocha wrote:

The Godfather (I'm a good Italian girl)

Correct answer.

(I'm a good Italian girl, too. BUT...it's still, even objectively, probably the best piece of work ever. Also the parts in Sicily were filmed in my father's hometown (Savoca), and the parts in NYC in the flashbacks were filmed on the street my grandmother grew up (Mott St). cool)

For me...I must with some shame admit that my list of good movies and my list of guilty pleasure movies tends to combine. This is because I demand talent from the actors I slobber helplessly over. Also, I tend to be faithful to certain people, like I would watch just about anything with Spielberg's name on it, and I've never been disappointed. The man makes me cry like a little bitch. I cried at one point watching Jurassic Park. That's right. But hmm. No particular order (seriously, some of my favorites are at the bottom):

The Godfather 1 and 2
Silence of the Lambs
Hannibal (I won't run into Hannibal in Florence, and that disappoints me. Especially because my Italian teacher did. emot-mad He said Hopkins was a very cool guy.)
Schinder's List
The Usual Suspects
Reversal of Fortune
Jurassic Park
Ed Wood
Goodfellas
Wall Street
Scent of a Woman
Die Hard
Alien
Nightmare Before Christmas
The Addams Family 1 and 2
Quills
Lord of the Rings (all three) etc-love
Indiana Jones (1 and 3, though of course would never refuse 2)
Rasputin (WHY ISN'T THIS ON DVD emot-gonk)
Dead Ringers
Secretary
Dangerous Liaisons
Casino
Independence Day (...what?)
Interview with the Vampire (.......what?)
Pirates of the Caribbean (WHAT???)
Glengarry Glen Ross
Fight Club
Se7en
Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
American Beauty
Robin Hood: Men in Tights
History of the World Part 1
Remains of the Day
Shadowlands
Raging Bull
Conspiracy
Opening sequence of Austin Powers: Goldmember, rest was horrible but come on. Kevin Spacey and Danny DeVito. HAR)
War of the Roses (nothing like SKU)
American Psycho
Love & Death
Husbands & Wives
Annie Hall
Thomas Crown Affair (Brosnan, AND FUCK YOU, IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE emot-mad)
Goldeneye (SEE ABOVE emot-mad emot-mad)
The Devil's Advocate (...okay fine, there's no excuse for this one. But but, sexy Satan and NYC. How can I resist?)

BTW, _J_, Man in the Iron Mask isn't a guilty pleasure. It was actually a really good movie, and I was saying that back when I wished the ISS would land on DeCaprio. (After The Aviator, well...fuck. Fine. Boy's got talent.)

Also christ I know I'm forgetting a few...

Edit: LIKE FULL METAL JACKET.


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#18 | Back to Top11-18-2006 09:25:39 PM

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Giovanna wrote:

Dangerous Liaisons

I love the power acting in that movie and the malice of the characters.

Also related to Dangerous Liaisons, I just saw Crispin Freeman at the Anime USA con tonight. He's the English voice actor for Touga. He lives in L.A. now but he used to live in NYC and did a lot of plays, even Broadway. So an audience member asked him, if he could have any part in any play, which would it be? And he answered "Vicomte Sébastien de Valmont" from Dangerous Liaisons. He said that's the character he's always wanted to play but never got to. Then he thought a moment and said, "But wait, I DID get to play him in a way, because I got to do Touga Kiryu from Utena."

And thinking about it, they are similar characters in many ways. Anyway, Crispin Freeman is an encyclopedia of anime, engaging, funny and worth listening to if anyone gets a chance to hear him speak at a con. Oh yeah, a woman (cosplaying Anthy) asked him to do a Touga line from Utena. He did the Chick Speech. It was great. He did some great lines as Alucard from Hellsing too.

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#19 | Back to Top11-18-2006 10:05:53 PM

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There are definitely similarities. Not the least of which being I think Touga would pimp the hell out of period outfits like those. But if he's Valmont...doesn't that make Akio Merteuil??? emot-gonk

We're gonna need some curry, here.


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#20 | Back to Top11-18-2006 10:26:44 PM

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Giovanna wrote:

There are definitely similarities. Not the least of which being I think Touga would pimp the hell out of period outfits like those. But if he's Valmont...doesn't that make Akio Merteuil??? emot-gonk

We're gonna need some curry, here.

Oh, yes, the period outfits! And duels! But Akio doesn't have to refuse sex, as Merteuil does, to manipulate him. And I guess Utena is Tourvel except that she doesn't cave. Okay, I'm re-watching that movie this weekend.

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#21 | Back to Top11-18-2006 11:40:24 PM

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Re: Movies

I just saw The Fearless Vampire Killers Or Pardon Me, But Your Teeth Are in My Neck I laughed, I laughed a lot. The movie is a really great parody of vampire movies. And looks really good for a movie that was filmed on 1967.
I also love 1984 movie, it's a great adaptation of the book, and also the aging makes the movie even better. (because all is suposed to look archaic and roting.)


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#22 | Back to Top11-18-2006 11:56:24 PM

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Re: Movies

EDIT: Oh hey, I'm a retard when I'm tired. All links in this post are NWS.


I'm on a total gory flick kick.

Yeah, I feel a bit self-conscious about this for some reason, probably because it's so out of place compared to what the rest of you have talked about, but... violence does it for me, so long as I know it's fake. The real stuff sickens me.

But twisted violence with sexual overtones really gets my gears working. I'm currently on my way to becoming the biggest Takashi Miike fangirl I've ever seen (this means nothing; as far as I know, I'm the only fangirl Edmonton). I'm restricting this post to gushing about him for now.

On a less violence-oriented note, the guy is a really good storyteller if you have a strong stomach. He has a really good sense of pacing, a very black sense of humor, and while I might not agree with some of his choices for camera shots, he's definitely got style. And if you're like me, and you like your violence with a heaping helping of The Crazy, and two helpings of (sometimes kinky) sex, You Are Set For Life, Sir.

*ahem* Well, enough of that for now. Let's get on with the movies.

First, Ichi the Killer. Here is the tame trailer. You won't get a good sense of the movie from it, but as a summary, it's about yakuza. Specifically, the lieutenant of one yakuza syndicate (I think) named Kakihara, whose boss has mysteriously disappeared. Kakihara refuses to admit the possibility of his boss's death, and searches for him with almost maniacal fervor. To say much more would spoil you, but here are two facts. First, there is a character named Ichi. Second, the semen used in the opening credits of the film is real semen. etc-wankdude

My opinion? Fucking brilliant. The movie is gory, but the gore is depicted in very darkly humorous fashion. The characters are likeable (although that's my opinion, and I find Akio and Touga likeable-- your mileage may vary). The issues and the examination of human nature are expository and surprisingly applicable to your everyday person, although no real conclusions are reached. But the big bonus for me? You feel like someone threw your brain in a washing machine after. I love it when movies do that to me. Oh, and for you people who like a bit of bloody stuff, here's a few more scenes from the movie. The american trailer, the cut in half scene, the tongue cutting scene, and a torture scene.

What can I say? I adore this movie, and I'd totally beat the hell out of Kakihara if he wanted me to etc-love

Other very notable flicks from Takashi Miike are Audition, a slow-paced movie that starts out like a romance flick and spirals straight into hell, Dead Or Alive, a gangster flick with an... interesting ending, Fudoh, with one of the weirdest sex scenes I've ever seen, and The Happiness of the Katakuris, a musical about a family who opens a bed and breakfast whose customers keep dying. I couldn't find a trailer for this one, so here's a musical number.

If you like horror movies, gory movies, black comedy, and surprisingly sensitive and sometimes philosophical examinations of human nature, Takashi Miike is your man. He's got his share of mindlessness, but I've never watched one of his movies and come away unsurprised or unimpressed.


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#23 | Back to Top11-19-2006 08:24:56 AM

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Yasha wrote:

EDIT: Oh hey, I'm a retard when I'm tired. All links in this post are NWS.


Other very notable flicks from Takashi Miike are Audition, a slow-paced movie that starts out like a romance flick and spirals straight into hell

I saw clips of this from an A&E countdown of something like the scariest movies or something along those lines.  Even just from the clips, I've gotten so freaked out that I can't work up the nerve to watch it, nor can my husband.  I'm determined that I will sometime, but my goodness that show looks absolutely freaky.  I am starting to slowly calm down about it though (I saw that show a year a go), so I'm starting to think about putting it in my Netflix queue.  Maybe for next Halloween.

(I'm usually not this much of a wimp, but the previews have just unnerved me completely.)

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#24 | Back to Top11-19-2006 08:41:56 PM

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Cerise wrote:

...I also dig Return of the Jedi.  Wedge Antilles rocks my world.

YES! Someone else in the world who likes ROTJ!!!!
(most Star Wars fans I meet tend to bash that movie cause of the Ewoks, but imo it's the greatest out of any of the SW movies emot-gonk )

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#25 | Back to Top11-19-2006 08:45:26 PM

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Ger wrote:

Cerise wrote:

...I also dig Return of the Jedi.  Wedge Antilles rocks my world.

YES! Someone else in the world who likes ROTJ!!!!
(most Star Wars fans I meet tend to bash that movie cause of the Ewoks, but imo it's the greatest out of any of the SW movies emot-gonk )

Count me in!  My favorite part is near the end where the battle Han, Leia, and the Ewoks are involved in parallels the one between Luke and the Emperor.  ROTJ is my favorite of the Original Trilogy. emot-keke


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